[Guy Incognito]

Sarien Sierra Adventure Game Interpreter (AGI)...wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Actually...apparently, this port of Sarien has been around since 2001.

[superlarry]

this looks really cool.. but how do we use it?
i'll be very happy if i can break out my Space Quest IV again.. after i transfer it to my cube from my iisi, since the game's on floppies ;c)

[Guy Incognito]

Originally posted by superlarry:
this looks really cool.. but how do we use it?
i'll be very happy if i can break out my Space Quest IV again.. after i transfer it to my cube from my iisi, since the game's on floppies ;c)

It doesn't support the 256-color games yet. Only the early 16-color AGI games.

This means, Mother Goose, Space Quest I and II, King's Quest I, II, III, (not sure about 4), Hero's Quest I, Police Quest I (not sure about II), Leisure Suit Larry I, II (not sure about 3).


Yeah...I'd give anything to play Space Quest III, IV and King's Quest V.

How do you use it? When you launch the program it'll show you a 'Open' dialog box...just select the folder with the game data and click open.

[superlarry]

Originally posted by Guy Incognito:


It doesn't support the 256-color games yet. Only the early 16-color AGI games.

This means, Mother Goose, Space Quest I and II, King's Quest I, II, III, (not sure about 4), Hero's Quest I, Police Quest I (not sure about II), Leisure Suit Larry I, II (not sure about 3).


Yeah...I'd give anything to play Space Quest III, IV and King's Quest V.

How do you use it? When you launch the program it'll show you a 'Open' dialog box...just select the folder with the game data and click open.

ahh.. thanks.
too bad about the 256-color games - but at least i know something like this is around, so maybe some day :c)

[Guy Incognito]

Originally posted by superlarry:


ahh.. thanks.
too bad about the 256-color games - but at least i know something like this is around, so maybe some day :c)

Whoops...I don't think Hero's Quest I nor LSL2 work.

[voodoo]

But what games do you use? PeeCee, Mac... You have to have the 'original'. Right?

[Guy Incognito]

Originally posted by voodoo:
But what games do you use? PeeCee, Mac... You have to have the 'original'. Right?

Yup, all my Mac versions (Space Quest I, II, Police Quest I, King's Quest I, II, III and Leisure Suit Larry). I'm almost certain the data files are identical for both the Mac versions and PC versions so if you own the PC version, go right ahead and use the data files for the PC version.

Even if they weren't identical, I'm sure Sarien would recognize the PC data files since it's an open-source project with developers from many platforms working on it.

[chris.p]

anyone who cares: (and you should )

http://mac.the-underdogs.org

all the games are here (and more)- abandoned and free because they are so old

couldnt you just get this?

http://www.bannister.org/software/vmac.htm

(im not sure if the games you mention are powermac or just macintosh)

[Guy Incognito]

Originally posted by chris.p:
anyone who cares: (and you should )

http://mac.the-underdogs.org

all the games are here (and more)- abandoned and free because they are so old

couldnt you just get this?

http://www.bannister.org/software/vmac.htm

(im not sure if the games you mention are powermac or just macintosh)

Yeah, I used to use vMac for my old Sierra games...but I had never seen them in color...vMac is emulates a Classic B&W Mac so all my games looked exactly the way I used to play 'em on my Mac 128k. Booo. So Sarien is a godsend.

Although vMac is still excellent for other true B&W games...Dungeon of Doom and Cap'n Magnet...oh and Shufflepuck Cafe.

There's also a BasiliskII OS X port...I've gotten my Space Quest IV to work in it...but the other Sierra games look for working sound and BasiliskII for OS X doesn't emulate that yet so the games promptly quit.

[chris.p]

guy,

where do you get the osx port of Basilisk II ? ive checked the homepage, but there is no mention of it.

cheers

c

[Guy Incognito]

Originally posted by chris.p:
guy,

where do you get the osx port of Basilisk II ? ive checked the homepage, but there is no mention of it.

cheers

c

Yeah...it's a super-secret port I guess...I'm surprised I even found it at all.

BasiliskII

[chris.p]

thanks

[superlarry]

Originally posted by Guy Incognito:

How do you use it? When you launch the program it'll show you a 'Open' dialog box...just select the folder with the game data and click open.

this isn't working for me - it just brings up a command line and i'm not sure what to do from there. anyone know?

[voodoo]

Originally posted by Guy Incognito:


Yeah...it's a super-secret port I guess...I'm surprised I even found it at all.

BasiliskII

I seem to need ROM files to run BasiliskII. Any idea where to acquire them?

Oh, this may sound stupid but, do I need the original System 6 or 7 to run BasiliskII?

<it's not easy being green>

[superlarry]

Originally posted by voodoo:


I seem to need ROM files to run BasiliskII. Any idea where to acquire them?

Oh, this may sound stupid but, do I need the original System 6 or 7 to run BasiliskII?

<it's not easy being green>

i don't know where you can get a ROM file (it is necessary, though).

you will need system 6 or 7 and a disk image set up that you'll have basiliskii boor from. check here http://mes.emuunlim.com/software/macos/macos.htm for the system software.

[clarkgoble]

Pretty much unless you can find a ROM at a Warez site or off Gnutella you are out of luck unless you know someone with an old Mac sitting around. Sadly my old PowerMac 7100 and MacIIci were given away a few years back. However the main game I wanted to play, Dark Castle, wasn't available anywhere. So it isn't a huge loss. . .

I do wish there was a port of those games to OSX.

[chris.p]

i found the quadra 1mb rom with google- useful if your quadra has given up the ghost.

as to how to get basilisk to install system 7- thats the problem im having.
i created a disk image with (os9) diskcopy, - basilisk saw this, cool. set basilisk to open 1st part of the os7.5 system software, fine, opens the installer. Crashes when it gets about half way.
tried getting basilisk to open more than the first part (ie 1+2, 1-19 etc) still crashes in the same place.
tried a few different hd images (downloaded from the net) that have sys.7 installed- basilisk didnt recognise them.

anyone have any tips?

cheers

[voodoo]

Same here. I am trying to install System 7.0.1 with BasiliskII and I can't. It doesn't crash or anything, the installer just doesn't find the volume I have created on my HD. And I can't very well install it on the System Disk, now can I?

The ROM is rather easy to find with Google. I used the keywords Mac BIOS ROM. Whazzam! Instant Quadra, performa and 128k ROMS.

The strange thing is BasiliskII won't work for me unless I use the 1MB quadra ROM using a MacIIc with a 030 processor?!?

BasiliskII is dog slow for me as well! Unusably slow in fact.

I have a 384MB iBook 600MHz.

Any advice on installing system 7 or does anyone know a good manual for basiliskii for the Mac?

[nigelpearson]

Originally posted by chris.p:

where do you get the osx port of Basilisk II ? ive checked the homepage, but there is no mention of it.

Yes, that is my fault. I have been lazy in asking Christian to put it up there.

http://www.users.bigpond.com/pear_computers

If anyone has any interest in hacking OS X code
(e.g. sound support), give me a call!

[Guy Incognito]

Originally posted by nigelpearson:


Yes, that is my fault. I have been lazy in asking Christian to put it up there.

http://www.users.bigpond.com/pear_computers

If anyone has any interest in hacking OS X code
(e.g. sound support), give me a call!

Yay! Nigel Pearson is here!!!

What else do you have planned for BasiliskII for OS X...other than hacking in sound support?

Oh...about sound support...some of the late Sierra adventure games (King's Quest 5, 6, 7...Space Quest I VGA Edition etc...) will quit after realizing they can't initialize sounds...and then blame it on Sound Manager. But I have a feeling it's because sound support is not implemented yet...is there a way to get BasiliskII with some preliminary sound support code that would make the game believe that it can play sounds (even though it won't)? Or is it really my Sound Manager (I'll have to check if Sound Manager is installed or not...forgive me if it's my fault. )

[chris.p]

thanks for coming here nigel- its good to know you want to help can you tell me how to create a virtual hd for bsilisk, and install the os (7 or 7.5)?

thanks- muchly appreciated.

[El Pre$idente]

Basilisk is running great with OS7.1. Some games don't work, sound doesn't work. But where can I find Abandonware apps like Photoshop 2 or Office 1 or something?

[voodoo]

Originally posted by El Pre$idente:
Basilisk is running great with OS7.1. Some games don't work, sound doesn't work. But where can I find Abandonware apps like Photoshop 2 or Office 1 or something?

How do you install system 7 on basiliskii? I am having no luck!

[El Pre$idente]

Originally posted by voodoo:


How do you install system 7 on basiliskii? I am having no luck!

Someone sent me a preinstalled .vol file (disk volume) over iChat.

[chris.p]

el presidente,

there is a couple of apps here- ps1 and word 4

http://mandragore.lautre.net/grenier/

can you host the .vol fle on idisk or something like that? how big is the file?

[El Pre$idente]

Originally posted by chris.p:
el presidente,

there is a couple of apps here- ps1 and word 4

http://mandragore.lautre.net/grenier/

can you host the .vol fle on idisk or something like that? how big is the file?

The disk volume is 10MBs and has OS 7.1 and Photoshop 1. Can't believe how basic and crude they were. If they are abandonware then we should be able to share them out loud. I'll host it at idisk 'arondallarosa' by 10PM UK time.

You need the ROM file for the LCII. Since ROMs can't be shared legally I can't host that.

[Guy Incognito]

Originally posted by El Pre$idente:


The disk volume is 10MBs and has OS 7.1 and Photoshop 1. Can't believe how basic and crude they were. If they are abandonware then we should be able to share them out loud. I'll host it at idisk 'arondallarosa' by 10PM UK time.

You need the ROM file for the LCII. Since ROMs can't be shared legally I can't host that.

I think 'abandonware' is just a term that people use to excuse themselves from downloading something commercial that isn't being sold anymore.

But hey...it's not being sold anymore so the company isn't really losing anything. It's actually gaining through free advertisement.

[voodoo]

Originally posted by El Pre$idente:


The disk volume is 10MBs and has OS 7.1 and Photoshop 1. Can't believe how basic and crude they were. If they are abandonware then we should be able to share them out loud. I'll host it at idisk 'arondallarosa' by 10PM UK time.

You need the ROM file for the LCII. Since ROMs can't be shared legally I can't host that.

How can we approach the disk.vol ? You have uploaded it?

[El Pre$idente]

Originally posted by voodoo:


How can we approach the disk.vol ? You have uploaded it?

idisk - arondallarosa

[:XI:]

does someone have another link to basilisk? the two links posted above don't seem to have it!
thanks.

[voodoo]

Originally posted by El Pre$idente:


idisk - arondallarosa

Ok. I got that part, but how can I access it?

there is no homepage for arondallarosa on mac.com. Can you post the URL? Pleeeeeeease.

I can be so green sometimes. Sorry.

[El Pre$idente]

Originally posted by voodoo:


Ok. I got that part, but how can I access it?

there is no homepage for arondallarosa on mac.com. Can you post the URL? Pleeeeeeease.

I can be so green sometimes. Sorry.

I thought you knew how to use OSX!!!

Download iDisk Utility and then connect to that idisk.

[chris.p]

thanks works perfectly.

[voodoo]

Originally posted by chris.p:
thanks works perfectly.

Well it doesn't work for me. iDisk Utility refuses to connect. I don't know why. I give up. Can you e-mail it to me? I don't know any way to reach this else. Or send it to me via AIM. My ScreenName is at the bottom. Thanks guys.

<-- unhappy voodoo.

[chris.p]

ill upload it if you still cant get to the idisk, i have no idea why you cant- it worked fine for me yesterday, and today at 6.40pm gmt. the problem is im on a naff 56k modem, so it will take about 2hrs to upload- im not sure if my connection will last that long (thank bt ) if no-one with a zippy cable/asdl connection will do it, ill do it- coz i know you'll love it when you get it

[voodoo]

Originally posted by chris.p:
ill upload it if you still cant get to the idisk, i have no idea why you cant- it worked fine for me yesterday, and today at 6.40pm gmt. the problem is im on a naff 56k modem, so it will take about 2hrs to upload- im not sure if my connection will last that long (thank bt ) if no-one with a zippy cable/asdl connection will do it, ill do it- coz i know you'll love it when you get it

Thank yo very much for your offer Chis. It is much appreceiated, and I have no idea why this didn't work for me, either. El Pre$idente showed up on iChat and graciously uploaded the volme. Much appreciated! Thank you guys.

(And you are right chris! I am loving every minute of it!)

[nigelpearson]

Originally posted by Guy Incognito:

What else do you have planned for BasiliskII for OS X...other than hacking in sound support?

My main priority is getting windowed mode to work quickly, trying the faster (JIT) 68k emulator, and then implementing all the other missing features :-)

[nigelpearson]

Originally posted by chris.p:
thanks for coming here nigel- its good to know you want to help can you tell me how to create a virtual hd for bsilisk, and install the os (7 or 7.5)?

thanks- muchly appreciated.

There is now a small HowTo on my web page:

http://www.users.bigpond.com/pear_co...l-from-CD.html

[nigelpearson]

Originally posted by voodoo:
BasiliskII is dog slow for me as well! Unusably slow in fact.

I have a 384MB iBook 600MHz.

I am working on getting it faster. There are two causes:

* Window update speed.
The OS X windowing system is slow. 10.2 is about 40% faster in this aspect (on my PowerBook G4 400), but it is still a problem.
Easiest workaround is to use the full screen mode

*68k emulator speed
Unlike the fast just-in-time-compiling emulator that Apple uses in OS 8 and 9, BasiliskII uses a much simpler one. The other developers are working on a JIT version of this, but it is slow going (and very tedious)

[nigelpearson]

Originally posted by :XI::
does someone have another link to basilisk? the two links posted above don't seem to have it!
thanks.

In the middle of this page are the download links:

http://www.users.bigpond.com/pear_computers/

[chris.p]

thanks nigel- i recon i must have tried every combo of disks/ img files/ read write/ read only, etc but the one you mention. I do have the .vol thats been passed around on idisk, but its nice to know for next time