[Hash]

Westlake or whoever developed UT 2003, just killed the awesome game UT was! It became a cheap Quake mod! I played a demo on PC (I have downloaded all 100 mb) and i hate it:

1. All skins (players) look exactly like old Quake skins: disproportional, cartoonish, beefy, simply stupid

2. All weapons are remodeled to like Quake weapons. Exact design and sizes

3. Taunts and voices are awkward. Not only bots scream **** words, they also sound stupid with all that euphoria

4. General look and feel is just like exactly Quake.

5. All good, which was in UT, disappeared. There are no sniper rifles, instead there is some stupid light beam gun (??), all weapons like same.

And so on and so on....

[Guy Incognito]

Originally posted by Hash:
Westlake or whoever developed UT 2003, just killed the awesome game UT was! It became a cheap Quake mod! I played a demo on PC (I have downloaded all 100 mb) and i hate it:

1. All skins (players) look exactly like old Quake skins: disproportional, cartoonish, beefy, simply stupid

2. All weapons are remodeled to like Quake weapons. Exact design and sizes

3. Taunts and voices are awkward. Not only bots scream **** words, they also sound stupid with all that euphoria

4. General look and feel is just like exactly Quake.

5. All good, which was in UT, disappeared. There are no sniper rifles, instead there is some stupid light beam gun (??), all weapons like same.

And so on and so on....

1. Westlake did not develop UT 2003...in fact Westlake isn't even *porting* UT 2003.

2. No!

3. Turn taunts off.

4. No!

5. Sniper rifles are for pussies and all hell breaks loose when there's a hack that allows for easy target shooting...good riddance to the sniper rifle.

6. Shut up!

[Hash]

I am sure you like those macho screams, cause that what you feel about miniature yourself. Why dont you shut up, idiot?

[Guy Incognito]

Originally posted by Hash:
I am sure you like those macho screams, cause that what you feel about miniature yourself. Why dont you shut up, idiot?

NO YUO!

[Vash]

Hash, I for one agree with you. I may love Quake 3, but UT2003 should not be like it. And he is right about all of the weapons being changed to be like Q3, I have read many reviews about this. Also the Sniper Rifle is one of the weapons in the original UT that kept it different from a Q3 game. I did not expect UT2003 to be a more madness like game like Quake, I thought it would be different, but like you, I was dissapointed.

[xyber233]

UT2003 is so awesome. It feels alike more like quake 3 but its still UT. Can't wait for it to be released for mac!

[Judge_Fire]

1: The demo only has one model, which is bulky. The full game has lots more.

2: Not really, UT guns are so much more detailed. As for usage, they still have alternate operation modes and combos, quite unlike Quake. IMHO, this is what makes UT so fun.

3: More voices is better than the old 4 or so voices, but the taunts get old fast. Play with people, with voice and you'll get better taunts. In the same room: even better - these games come alive with real people you can throw things at. Can't guarantee the absence of **** - words there, either, though.

4: Quake is for geriatrics. UT2003 is different than UT, but the versatile operation of the guns, the translocator, the Link Gun, the Shield Gun... all quite UT. Use the combo moves and enjoy.

The (DM) maps aren't as great as I'd hoped, but that will get better with community making our own. Still, they encourage all kinds of play, not just Quake's "run around blasting things"- mode.

Personally, I prefer it speeded up by a notch - it seems just a bit slower than UT by default.

Bombing Run and Double Domination seem very fun play modes, we'll see how they turn out.

5: I liked the rifle, too, but I think the new gun is better in line with the overall style. I've had enough rifling in RtCW and flaming heads are kinda neat.


Things I miss:

- versatility of the rocket launcher (4 modes, two spreads, lock on target)

- freaky thematic maps (galleon etc.)

Things I welcome:

- transloc limit (though I love the device)

- ion painter/cannon. Like sniping with a nuke

- better physics model


Play the full version for awhile and embrace the new stuff, I hope it turns out good for you in the end,

J

[Hash]

Do they have Two Faces in UT2003?

[Jowy]

Originally posted by Hash:
Do they have Two Faces in UT2003?

That space like CTF map from the first UT? Yes I've read that it's in there and that those who have played on it like it a lot. I personally never liked it but that was because of snipers. It seems that the replacement for the sniper rifle takes care of that problem.

[Guy Incognito]

Originally posted by Jowy:


That space like CTF map from the first UT? Yes I've read that it's in there and that those who have played on it like it a lot. I personally never liked it but that was because of snipers. It seems that the replacement for the sniper rifle takes care of that problem.

Sniping got old fast. It was fun when it actually required some skill against people that moved around a lot...but then aimbots took over UT and Quake 3 and everyone was able to snipe or rail you from across the map while you tried to move around like you had somekind of seizure.

[Jansar]

Well, I liked the general idea of Quake anyway with the superior gameplay fun of UT. It has the best of both worlds!

[Hash]

Yeah, thats my favorite map. I like that very much. Not only because of snipers. I can snipe as well, but you can do anything in that map. Its amazing. And of course, I never used aimbot like Guy Incognito does.