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poulh · Mar 14, 2003, 08:37 AM

I was looking thru my dowloads folder and I found "Smac Carbon" and "Smax Carbon".

I think Brad Oliver of Westlake made these awhile ago...

Anyone ever tried them? Any good?

I can't find them on the internet anymore so I wonder if they got had to be taken down.

Osirisis · Mar 14, 2003, 08:58 AM

I've been running them for ages. They run (ran) great. I attempted to run it last night in 10.2.4 and it just bombed out. Both of them

Wonder what changed recently to make it stop working. It's my favorite strategy game

Osirisis · Mar 15, 2003, 11:01 AM

Originally posted by Osirisis:
I've been running them for ages. They run (ran) great. I attempted to run it last night in 10.2.4 and it just bombed out. Both of them Wonder what changed recently to make it stop working. It's my favorite strategy game

Here's my crash log:

Date/Time: 2003-03-13 22:02:17 -0500
OS Version: 10.2.4 (Build 6I32)
Host: localhost

Command: SMACX Carbon
PID: 531

Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000000

Thread 0 Crashed:
#0 0x00426150 in 0x426150
#1 0x003159c8 in load_fixed_sprites__Fv
#2 0x00329ac0 in system_init__Fv
#3 0x002b9e48 in control_game__Fv
#4 0x00333e44 in WinMain__FPvPvPci
#5 0x001a3e54 in 0x1a3e54

Thread 1:
#0 0x90073c48 in mach_msg_trap
#1 0x90005f90 in mach_msg
#2 0x90148b10 in __CFRunLoopRun
#3 0x90180fe4 in CFRunLoopRunSpecific
#4 0x94d9c1c0 in _ZN10HALRunLoop9OwnThreadEPv
#5 0x94d911b0 in _ZN9CAPThread5EntryEPS_
#6 0x90020d48 in _pthread_body

PPC Thread State:
srr0: 0x00426150 srr1: 0x0200f030 vrsave: 0x00000000
xer: 0x00000000 lr: 0x0029aa90 ctr: 0x0000007f mq: 0x00000000
r0: 0x00010203 r1: 0xbfffe6c0 r2: 0x004d6000 r3: 0x00000000
r4: 0x00562bd0 r5: 0x00000fe0 r6: 0xfffffffc r7: 0x000003f8
r8: 0x00000008 r9: 0x00000400 r10: 0xbfffdc20 r11: 0x00000038
r12: 0x28002240 r13: 0x00000001 r14: 0xbffff170 r15: 0xbfffee70
r16: 0x005619d4 r17: 0x00562bd4 r18: 0x00563bd4 r19: 0xbfffe760
r20: 0xbfffee30 r21: 0xbffff1b0 r22: 0x00000000 r23: 0x00000010
r24: 0x00000000 r25: 0x00000010 r26: 0x0056fcd4 r27: 0x0056fdd4
r28: 0x0061d784 r29: 0x004f2458 r30: 0x0050a2ec r31: 0x00768bd0

Not sure but it looks like 10.2.4 doesn't like how it's drawing to screen. Might have something to do with the graphics updates it included.

juanvaldes · Mar 15, 2003, 08:01 PM

Originally posted by Osirisis:

Not sure but it looks like 10.2.4 doesn't like how it's drawing to screen. Might have something to do with the graphics updates it included.

that would be my guess...

Osirisis · Mar 16, 2003, 08:23 AM

Originally posted by juanvaldes:
that would be my guess...

Hey Juan, you'll have to let me know how MOO3 is. I've decided to hold off until I get some reviews

Osirisis · Mar 27, 2003, 05:52 PM

Originally posted by juanvaldes:
that would be my guess...

Found my issue. Damn permissions. I had Read Access the whole way down. Needed Write. Get Info wouldn't change it all. Thank you chown and chmod. That's what I fet for installing a game under someone else's account. Just thought I'd post an update in case anyone else has this issue.

coolmacdude · Mar 27, 2003, 07:16 PM

Would you be so kind as to email me a copy? (coolmacguyosx@cox.net) I have been looking for that for ages.

Osirisis · Mar 27, 2003, 07:57 PM

Originally posted by coolmacdude:
Would you be so kind as to email me a copy? (coolmacguyosx@cox.net) I have been looking for that for ages.

Unfortunately don't have an email acct to send something that big. This thread at insidemacgames notes that it's on the clanmacgaming hotline server:

http://www.insidemacgames.com/forum/...pic.php?t=8571

Might want to try there. There are a couple of hotline clients you can use. Just do a search for hotline at versiontracker.

Here's the info you'll need to hit their server once you have a client:

http://www.clanmacgaming.com/files.php?show=hotline

coolmacdude · Mar 27, 2003, 09:32 PM

Actually I am a hotline vet and already did an exhaustive search of all the mac game servers I know of. Thanks a lot, I can't believe I didn't know about that server.

juanvaldes · Mar 28, 2003, 01:18 AM

Originally posted by Osirisis:
Found my issue. Damn permissions. I had Read Access the whole way down. Needed Write. Get Info wouldn't change it all. Thank you chown and chmod. That's what I fet for installing a game under someone else's account. Just thought I'd post an update in case anyone else has this issue.

Awesome!

I will let everyone know my opinion of MOO when it arives, well a week or so later, gotta dig in first

Should be shipping anyday now...

P · Mar 29, 2003, 10:34 AM

Have you tried running SMAC in windowed mode? That has always been a lot more stable for me, even if I haven't tried it since 10.2.4 arrived.

qyn · Apr 9, 2003, 05:47 PM

Was there ever a fix for the saving problem (where cmd-S causes a crash)? As much as I loved SMAC, that bug was kind of a deal breaker for me.