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Didsky · May 20, 2004, 12:28 PM

Has anyone been able to make a bootable image from the COD DVD so it doesn't have to be used for game play each time? I've had zero luck-

Thanks

Applefreak01 · May 21, 2004, 03:16 PM

You aren't suppose to be able to make a copy of game CD's or DVD's this is called piracy unless you bought the game CD/DVD and just didn't borrow it from a friend and want to make a back-up copy which under the Law you have the right to do. They use safedisc technology to stop people from making copies. I don't get it how they can use safedisc technology to stop people from making copies but yet under the Law a owner of the software has the right to make a back-up copy but they can't because of the anti-piracy technologies in the CD's and CD/DVD recording software. Doesn't make add up for me.

Why do you need a bootable image???? Or do you mean bootable as in the play CD/DVD. A bootable image is a image that would allow you to create a bootable CD/DVD that your computer would boot instead of the hard drive like a Mac OS X CD for example.

I can understand wanting to use a hard drive image of the CD/DVD instead of having the disc in the CD/DVD drive while playing but there's no legal way around it.

You need the CD in so the game knows that you own a legal copy of the game and that the CD key isn't stolen or cracked.

a2daj · May 21, 2004, 03:50 PM

How do you know Aspyr is using Safedisc? Maybe they just improved the disk check code or Apple's DVD checking code is better than it's CD checking code. I made a backup disk of CoD just fine and I've used it to start up CoD.

madmacgames, I think you may be confusing DVD disks with DVD movies.

madmacgames · May 21, 2004, 03:50 PM

Originally posted by Applefreak01:
You aren't suppose to be able to make a copy of game CD's or DVD's this is called piracy unless you bought the game CD/DVD and just didn't borrow it from a friend and want to make a back-up copy which under the Law you have the right to do. They use safedisc technology to stop people from making copies. I don't get it how they can use safedisc technology to stop people from making copies but yet under the Law a owner of the software has the right to make a back-up copy but they can't because of the anti-piracy technologies in the CD's and CD/DVD recording software. Doesn't make add up for me.

Actually, in the USA, under the DMCA (Digital Millennium Copyright Act) it is illegal to make copies or backups of DVDs. Many, including myself, believe this to be a violation of a person's fair-use rights (like for a CD, it is fair-use to make a copy for backup, use in your car, etc).

As to the original question, I am not sure what you are asking Didsky.

dualieG5 · 10:10 AM

Dont need a cd or dvd image....I have a crack if u like...Just email me and I'll send it for ya.

{email removed}

No sharing of cracks on these forums please, guys!

Applefreak01 · May 21, 2004, 04:48 PM

Originally posted by a2daj:
How do you know Aspyr is using Safedisc? Maybe they just improved the disk check code or Apple's DVD checking code is better than it's CD checking code. I made a backup disk of CoD just fine and I've used it to start up CoD.

What I was getting confused was the PC version of CoD with the Mac version. I know the PC version uses SafeDisc 3.

Didsky - Were you able to make a image but not be able to run the game from the image? Maybe it checks the hardware DVD drive for the DVD before it plays and the software image won't work. Don't know if that right but that's what I woud guess if you were able to make a image and not be able to play off the image.

madmacgames · May 21, 2004, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by a2daj:
madmacgames, I think you may be confusing DVD disks with DVD movies.

you may be correct. I believe the DCMA restrictions on copying DVDs has to do with the enoding/ecryption that DVD movies carry. I've never looked closely at a DVD game to see if it carries the same encryption and restrictions.

But I had no idea what the original poster was asking. It kind of sounded like he meant there movies on the DVD he wanted to rip off so he could watch without having to play the game.

a2daj · May 21, 2004, 05:19 PM

He was asking if anyone was able to make a disk image of CoD and use it to start up CoD. Disk images don't work with CoD. You need to use a physical disk.

Didsky · May 21, 2004, 05:32 PM

You got it- I own COD- it is as amazing as people say it is.

I was hoping to make an image with Toast so that I simply wouldn't have to boot the physical CD each time for play (laziness, don't want it to get scrateched,etc.)

If it's not possible (and i certainly understand why for piracy reasons) no big deal-

I appreciate everyone's input

djjava · May 21, 2004, 06:05 PM

theoretically speaking, couldn't you just dupe the disc, rather than mount an image?

I bought my own, so it doesn't matter to me.

a2daj · May 21, 2004, 07:15 PM

Originally posted by djjava:
theoretically speaking, couldn't you just dupe the disc, ...

I mentioned in an earlier message that I already did that (and yes it works fine)

starman · May 21, 2004, 07:28 PM

Originally posted by Applefreak01:
You aren't suppose to be able to make a copy of game CD's or DVD's this is called piracy unless you bought the game CD/DVD and just didn't borrow it from a friend and want to make a back-up copy which under the Law you have the right to do. They use safedisc technology to stop people from making copies. I don't get it how they can use safedisc technology to stop people from making copies but yet under the Law a owner of the software has the right to make a back-up copy but they can't because of the anti-piracy technologies in the CD's and CD/DVD recording software. Doesn't make add up for me.

Why do you need a bootable image???? Or do you mean bootable as in the play CD/DVD. A bootable image is a image that would allow you to create a bootable CD/DVD that your computer would boot instead of the hard drive like a Mac OS X CD for example.

I can understand wanting to use a hard drive image of the CD/DVD instead of having the disc in the CD/DVD drive while playing but there's no legal way around it.

You need the CD in so the game knows that you own a legal copy of the game and that the CD key isn't stolen or cracked.

Piracy is stealing something that doesn't belong to you. Making a backup for yourself of something you already paid for so that you don't have to keep disk swapping all the time is NOT PIRACY.

So get off your high horse. It might TECHNICALLY break the license agreement, but please learn to use the words properly.

Mike

Adam Betts · 02:10 PM

Originally posted by starman:
So get off your high horse. It might TECHNICALLY break the license agreement, but please learn to use the words properly.

As for the CoD non-CD, you can get them from here:
[link removed]
(thanks dualieG5)

blizzard · May 23, 2004, 10:14 AM

http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.p...hreadid=205370

Discussion of the pros and cons of copy protection can be found in this thread. I realize that cracks can and are used in legal circumstances, but as they circumvent American law, and MacNN being an American forum, I can't allow them to be shared on MacNN property.