[DaveNinja]

I'm stuck at one part. I think its on the 3rd story. Theres a Fire Giant castle/dungeon and the last guy to kill is this red dragon (name starts with a 'K', i think). Anyway i cant kill the dragon no matter what i try. I havent had trouble with any other boss before, i'm a pretty powerful paladin with good equipment.
I got the dragon orb with the dead dragon in it that i give to the Red dragon. This does a lot of damage but i can finish him off.
Please help! i love this game but i hate being stuck at this point.

[Kevlar]

What are your character level(s) and what do you have for equipment?

[Rev-O]

Instead of fighting him hand to hand, come across the bridge that leads to his realm, don't open the last set of doors, lure him within eye sight, and pepper him with arrows for about 15 minutes real time. Kills him dead, and you don't hafta raise a sword against him. Even have your henchman use "only ranged attacks" if you want to get it over with a bit quicker.

this technique works in a couple of places. If you can wedge the bad guy behind a gate, you can sit on the other side and use ranged attacks against him all day long.

... that is if I'm thinking of the right red dragon...

[Kevlar]

Where I'm stuck is Vixthra... I can't figure out how to kill it...

[DaveNinja]

Rev-O: So should i just start shooting at him and not give him the dead-dragon-orb? or should i give him the orb then run back to the bridge? Thanks for the tip.

I have a level ~15 paladin with the dagger for chaos (usually i use a frosty-longsword and shield for lawful-good-people when fighting bosses since it makes my armor classes around 34)

Originally posted by Rev-O:
Instead of fighting him hand to hand, come across the bridge that leads to his realm, don't open the last set of doors, lure him within eye sight, and pepper him with arrows for about 15 minutes real time. Kills him dead, and you don't hafta raise a sword against him. Even have your henchman use "only ranged attacks" if you want to get it over with a bit quicker.

this technique works in a couple of places. If you can wedge the bad guy behind a gate, you can sit on the other side and use ranged attacks against him all day long.

... that is if I'm thinking of the right red dragon...

[Rev-O]

Originally posted by DaveNinja:
Rev-O: So should i just start shooting at him and not give him the dead-dragon-orb? or should i give him the orb then run back to the bridge? Thanks for the tip.

I have a level ~15 paladin with the dagger for chaos (usually i use a frosty-longsword and shield for lawful-good-people when fighting bosses since it makes my armor classes around 34)

IIRC, I gave him the orb, then boogied back acroos the bridge and Mr. Dragon was in a position not to follow me, then I shot the sh!t out of him with arrows. Make sure you have an amulet (or some other means) that gives invulnerability to mind affecting spells, 'cuz Dragons LOVE casting fear. The Stupid dragon was a PITA!

Technique #2 for nasty battles: involves money. Fight monster, usually letting your henchman go in first (the buddy system). After henchman get whacked, run in get a couple of hits in, then stone of recall before you die. Back at the temple of Tyr, reclaim your henchman, get healed, save game. Spend the gold and use the return portal back into combat and repeat process. If you get snuffed, reload game. Monsters don't seem to heal up while you are gone, so while you can heal up, they retain the damage inflicted. Tedious to be sure, but when fighting some unsavory critter, it's effective.

[DaveNinja]

excellent! thanks a lot. I did the 'stone of recall during battle' move before but i didnt know if the monster got healed or not. I'm a paladin so i'm immune to fear, luckily.
There are also items i always come across like fire beetle hearts, slaad tongues plot items i never figure out how to use. Is there a lot of stuff you just dont need to use in the game? i figured theres stuff for wizards to make potions out of (like beetle hearts) that i'll never be able to use. Also, what does the Rod of Resurection do? who can i bring back? does it revive me if i die or could i only use it to bring back a dead henchmen?

Originally posted by Rev-O:
IIRC, I gave him the orb, then boogied back acroos the bridge and Mr. Dragon was in a position not to follow me, then I shot the sh!t out of him with arrows. Make sure you have an amulet (or some other means) that gives invulnerability to mind affecting spells, 'cuz Dragons LOVE casting fear. The Stupid dragon was a PITA!

Technique #2 for nasty battles: involves money. Fight monster, usually letting your henchman go in first (the buddy system). After henchman get whacked, run in get a couple of hits in, then stone of recall before you die. Back at the temple of Tyr, reclaim your henchman, get healed, save game. Spend the gold and use the return portal back into combat and repeat process. If you get snuffed, reload game. Monsters don't seem to heal up while you are gone, so while you can heal up, they retain the damage inflicted. Tedious to be sure, but when fighting some unsavory critter, it's effective.

[Rev-O]

Originally posted by DaveNinja:
excellent! thanks a lot. I did the 'stone of recall during battle' move before but i didnt know if the monster got healed or not. I'm a paladin so i'm immune to fear, luckily.
There are also items i always come across like fire beetle hearts, slaad tongues plot items i never figure out how to use. Is there a lot of stuff you just dont need to use in the game? i figured theres stuff for wizards to make potions out of (like beetle hearts) that i'll never be able to use. Also, what does the Rod of Resurection do? who can i bring back? does it revive me if i die or could i only use it to bring back a dead henchmen?

Fire beetle hearts, slaad tongues, ettercap silk glands, etc., etc. are useful for wizards (supposedly), but I don't know for sure. I tried playing as a magic user a couple times, but it was annoying. Wanted more hack 'n' slash. Rod of ressurection is useless in single player mode, as far as I know, as henchmen respawn at the temple, and when you die, well, you're gone and ain't rod o' resurrectin' nothin'. For multiplayer adventures, you can bring back your buds after they get killed. Rod of ressurection is also handy in HotU expansion.

[DaveNinja]

Thanks Rev-O, I was able to get past the dragon, only took about 200 bolts to do it. A few times he'd chase me on the bridge (if i got on it before the gates locked) and kill me but one time he just stood there taking damage until he died.

Originally posted by Rev-O:
Fire beetle hearts, slaad tongues, ettercap silk glands, etc., etc. are useful for wizards (supposedly), but I don't know for sure. I tried playing as a magic user a couple times, but it was annoying. Wanted more hack 'n' slash. Rod of ressurection is useless in single player mode, as far as I know, as henchmen respawn at the temple, and when you die, well, you're gone and ain't rod o' resurrectin' nothin'. For multiplayer adventures, you can bring back your buds after they get killed. Rod of ressurection is also handy in HotU expansion.

[Rev-O]

Originally posted by DaveNinja:
Thanks Rev-O, I was able to get past the dragon, only took about 200 bolts to do it. A few times he'd chase me on the bridge (if i got on it before the gates locked) and kill me but one time he just stood there taking damage until he died.

told ya that you hafta shoot the sh!t out of him! But hey, it works!

[DaveNinja]

Another question for you Rev-O. I got all the words of power and went into a portal and now i'm stuck fighting 2 dragons at once, a copper one and a silver one. They kill me instantly. I cant find any where to shoot them from where they wont charge me. How am i supposed to kill or uncorrupt them?

[Rev-O]

Originally posted by DaveNinja:
Another question for you Rev-O. I got all the words of power and went into a portal and now i'm stuck fighting 2 dragons at once, a copper one and a silver one. They kill me instantly. I cant find any where to shoot them from where they wont charge me. How am i supposed to kill or uncorrupt them?

Uhhh... I'm trying to remember on this one. Yes it is a bitchola. IIRC, the recall stone doesn't work on this battle. Think I went in (with a fighter, like level 17) amped up on potions (bless, aid, bull's strength, pretty much anything I could think of) and with stoneskin (via Gargoyle Boots) and a boat load of healing potions. Seem to remember that this was just a slugfest... no tricks available. Concentrate on one dragon, get him gone, then run around and shoot at the other one. I also did saves in combat, so that if I was womping on the dragon, I'd save real quick before the fight went south on me. That way, if I died, I could resume the combat with the upper hand (although breifly).

BUT if the recall stone does work here, that's what I did. I was a big fan of whacking on a monster then recalling away to get healed and save.

I may have a save still from that fight. If I get a chance, I'll fire it up and see if that jogs my memory.

[DaveNinja]

I finally beat the game. I was supered it was over, i thought i still had a chapter or 2. Now i need to get the expansion packs. Have you played them, Rev-O (or anyone else here)? what do you think of them?

-Dave

Originally posted by Rev-O:
Uhhh... I'm trying to remember on this one. Yes it is a bitchola. IIRC, the recall stone doesn't work on this battle. Think I went in (with a fighter, like level 17) amped up on potions (bless, aid, bull's strength, pretty much anything I could think of) and with stoneskin (via Gargoyle Boots) and a boat load of healing potions. Seem to remember that this was just a slugfest... no tricks available. Concentrate on one dragon, get him gone, then run around and shoot at the other one. I also did saves in combat, so that if I was womping on the dragon, I'd save real quick before the fight went south on me. That way, if I died, I could resume the combat with the upper hand (although breifly).

BUT if the recall stone does work here, that's what I did. I was a big fan of whacking on a monster then recalling away to get healed and save.

I may have a save still from that fight. If I get a chance, I'll fire it up and see if that jogs my memory.

[Kevlar]

I just finished the 2nd exp and it was well worth it. It's a nice way to continue the story and keep leveling up your character.

[Rev-O]

Originally posted by DaveNinja:
I finally beat the game. I was supered it was over, i thought i still had a chapter or 2. Now i need to get the expansion packs. Have you played them, Rev-O (or anyone else here)? what do you think of them?

-Dave

Both expansions are good, but I thought HotU was better. It was more hack 'n' slash than SoU, but I think it had a more entertaining story. HotU is necessary if you want to advance past level 20, and SoU adds some nifty "prestige" classes. Both are worthwhile.

There are plenty of modules available at Neverwinter Vault. They're free, and some are quite good. Some require the expansions to play, some don't, so look at the requirements. DL the module and toss in the Modules folder inside of your Neverwinter Nights folder. Most require Hak packs, which you just droop into the Hak folder inside of your Neverwinter Nights folder. Many have intro movies and music as well (which go in the respective folders inside of Neverwinter Nights)

I highly recommend the ShadowLord series (1 thru 5) and its sequel, the Dreamcatcher series (1 thru 4). Each one is about as long as one of the expansions, but it is an on going story line. You can even play with your existing NWN character, tho it is less challenging. I restarted NWN with a new character, and never started chapter 2 because I got hooked on the modules! Try 'em out, you'll like 'em.

[DaveNinja]

Should HotU be played before SoU?

Originally posted by Rev-O:
Both expansions are good, but I thought HotU was better. It was more hack 'n' slash than SoU, but I think it had a more entertaining story. HotU is necessary if you want to advance past level 20, and SoU adds some nifty "prestige" classes. Both are worthwhile.

There are plenty of modules available at Neverwinter Vault. They're free, and some are quite good. Some require the expansions to play, some don't, so look at the requirements. DL the module and toss in the Modules folder inside of your Neverwinter Nights folder. Most require Hak packs, which you just droop into the Hak folder inside of your Neverwinter Nights folder. Many have intro movies and music as well (which go in the respective folders inside of Neverwinter Nights)

I highly recommend the ShadowLord series (1 thru 5) and its sequel, the Dreamcatcher series (1 thru 4). Each one is about as long as one of the expansions, but it is an on going story line. You can even play with your existing NWN character, tho it is less challenging. I restarted NWN with a new character, and never started chapter 2 because I got hooked on the modules! Try 'em out, you'll like 'em.

[Rev-O]

I played SoU first, but it doesn't matter. They are different storylines, with HotU having some characters from the original game popping up (tho, if you continue your character from the original game, they have no idea who you are). If you plan on continuing your character from Nwn into SoU and HotU, you'll find SoU not so challenging and HotU mildly more challenging (but only because the scenario levels the playing field by, shall we say, lightening your load right off the bat, which I found extremely annoying, but I got over it). Also, if you plan on continuing your character, and you are close to level 20, you'll want HotU installed. If you want to play as an Assassin or some other prestige class, you'll want SoU installed.

To be honest, I found the lengths of both expansions to be disappointing. 2ish chapters each. But they are both entertaining. Just pick 'em both up, install both & enjoy.

[DaveNinja]

Can i use the versions that come with the PC Platinum edition with the auto-updater/installer program?

Originally posted by Rev-O:
I played SoU first, but it doesn't matter. They are different storylines, with HotU having some characters from the original game popping up (tho, if you continue your character from the original game, they have no idea who you are). If you plan on continuing your character from Nwn into SoU and HotU, you'll find SoU not so challenging and HotU mildly more challenging (but only because the scenario levels the playing field by, shall we say, lightening your load right off the bat, which I found extremely annoying, but I got over it). Also, if you plan on continuing your character, and you are close to level 20, you'll want HotU installed. If you want to play as an Assassin or some other prestige class, you'll want SoU installed.

To be honest, I found the lengths of both expansions to be disappointing. 2ish chapters each. But they are both entertaining. Just pick 'em both up, install both & enjoy.

[Rev-O]

Originally posted by DaveNinja:
Can i use the versions that come with the PC Platinum edition with the auto-updater/installer program?

Uhhh... dunno. If they come on seperate discs, it shouldn't be a problem. If it is combined onto one disc, I have no clue how the auto-updater will handle it!