[Fusion]

I switched from PC about a year and a half ago. I really miss playing counter-strike on my PC, it was a good game. I am hoping that there is some multi-player first person shooter available for mac that is popular. I have played games like counter-strike, sof 2, wolfenstein, etc... on PC and loved them.

I think sof2 and wolfenstein are both available for mac, but I am looking for something a little closer to CS in play. So basically, what are the popular first person miliarty shooters for mac?

Also, this will be on a 1.5 g4 15" powerbook, so please only suggest stuff that will run okay on my machine. Thanx a ton everyone!

[Turnpike]

CoD, BF1942

There's a Quake III mod called "Urban Terror" that is a lot like CS... can't say how popular that is, though

[Fusion]

Can you tell me what CoD is?

[Turnpike]

Call of Duty. It's a pretty popular WWII first person shooter. There's a free single-player demo available for download. Mac and PC.

[The iMac Man]

I would also suggest Call of Duty.

It is a first person shooter, WWII game, with an incredible single player, and very good multiplayer.

It also has several Mods. If I recall, Counter Stike is a modern weapons game, right? If so, the Revolt mod for CoD is probably pretty darn similar.

www.codmod.com

There is also a CoD mod called Heat of Battle, which is WWII based, but adds realism, some extra WWII guns, an amazing gametype, etc.

www.heatofbattle.net

(I can provide Mac download links for anyone interested, or just search this forum for my announcement threads)

[Fusion]

Yes, if you could provide the links that would be wonderful. So how does this game stack up to Medal of Honor in your guys' opinions?

[DeeKat]

I would also recommend HALO for Mac. I personaly think it's a really hot game if you have'nt played it on PC. It's really smooth on my 1.5 Ghz 17" PB w/ 128Mb Video card. This game is sooo addictive i'm going throught it for a third time at Legendary difficulty level and i'm still having fun!!! Can't wait for HALO 2 for Mac, but i think it's gonna be a while....

[deboerjo]

I'll second Halo as a general recommendation (I have never enjoyed a single-player game this much), but I wouldn't consider Halo "more CS-like" as the original poster requested. The Urban Terror mod for Quake III is, I think, the closest thing to counterstrike you'll find.

-Jon

[The iMac Man]

Originally posted by Fusion:
Yes, if you could provide the links that would be wonderful. So how does this game stack up to Medal of Honor in your guys' opinions?

CoD is very similar to MoH... CoD was made by a lot of the same people that made MoH.

Revolt:

http://files.filefront.com/3573853;/...ations/Revolt/

Heat of Battle: (you might want to hold off on downloading this one, because a new version will be coming out tomorrow. I'll be posting an announcement thread here about it.)

http://files.filefront.com/3246843;/...20of%20Battle/

[Fusion]

Originally posted by DeeKat:
I would also recommend HALO for Mac. I personaly think it's a really hot game if you have'nt played it on PC. It's really smooth on my 1.5 Ghz 17" PB w/ 128Mb Video card. This game is sooo addictive i'm going throught it for a third time at Legendary difficulty level and i'm still having fun!!! Can't wait for HALO 2 for Mac, but i think it's gonna be a while....

Yeah, thanks for that recommendation. I have an xBox and that is the only game I have on it so I get enough Halo. I think Halo 2 is coming out in 2 days also.

[Fusion]

Okay, so I was trying out CoD, and after the first level (where they train you) it tries to load the next level and I get this error message.

"LoadTGA only type2 (RGB), 3(GRAY) and 10(RGB) TGA images supported"

It seems this has to do with some sort of TGA file and out of all the methods, there are only 3 supported, but I am using it straight from the download, nothing custom installed. This is really a bummer because the game looked really good from the training. I am afraid to buy it now though, if it will not work.

Can others please make sure it works on their powerbooks since 10.3.6 update? Is there anyone that can help me with this error?

[az_matt]

Two more suggestions:

America's Army - Great game, better than CS, IMHO. Based on UT2K3, though, so it requires some pretty hefty hardware to run it well. Updated often, lots of players... Give it a shot. Oh, and it's free. (Well, it's your tax dollars at work, anyway)

Infiltration - a mod for UT (not UT2K3/4, but the original UT). If you've ever played a FPS and though "I wish this was a bit more real", this is for you. Best realism ever, period. But that slows the gameplay a bit. Matter of taste, really. Great maps, super community, but not many people playing it. But if you can get your hands on a copy of UT, you really owe it to yourself to try this mod at some point. Incredible attention to detail. I can't say enough good things about it, really.

So that's my $0.02.

Matthew

[The iMac Man]

Originally posted by Fusion:
Okay, so I was trying out CoD, and after the first level (where they train you) it tries to load the next level and I get this error message.

"LoadTGA only type2 (RGB), 3(GRAY) and 10(RGB) TGA images supported"

It seems this has to do with some sort of TGA file and out of all the methods, there are only 3 supported, but I am using it straight from the download, nothing custom installed. This is really a bummer because the game looked really good from the training. I am afraid to buy it now though, if it will not work.

Can others please make sure it works on their powerbooks since 10.3.6 update? Is there anyone that can help me with this error?

I've never seen that error.

And, you have me confused... you mention the training level, and then later say that you are using the game straight from the download.... well, the only CoD you can download is the Demo, and as I recall, that has no training level.

If you pirated CoD, then that could be the source of the error. And, if it is indeed pirated, I am done helping you.

[Fusion]

Originally posted by The iMac Man:
I've never seen that error.

And, you have me confused... you mention the training level, and then later say that you are using the game straight from the download.... well, the only CoD you can download is the Demo, and as I recall, that has no training level.

If you pirated CoD, then that could be the source of the error. And, if it is indeed pirated, I am done helping you.

I did indeed download a torrent of the full one, to try it out. I would rather try out the full game rather then the demo to make sure it works. I thought downloaded games would not work with multiplayer though, so I would have to buy it anyway? What is the difference between downloading the torrent or the demo?

I would love to buy it, I miss CS very very much just to kill time and relax in the middle of finals, but I am afraid to buy it now. Apple has it for 49.95 through their website and this is the kind of error that it seems no-one would be able to help me with and I would spend hours on customer support etc...

Have you played this game successfully on a powerbook? Should I download the demo and if I do not experience the error on the demo can I assume that the full version will work fine?

- Josh

P.S. I do appreciate the help, please don't abandon me here.

[Fusion]

Originally posted by az_matt:
Two more suggestions:

America's Army - Great game, better than CS, IMHO. Based on UT2K3, though, so it requires some pretty hefty hardware to run it well. Updated often, lots of players... Give it a shot. Oh, and it's free. (Well, it's your tax dollars at work, anyway)

Infiltration - a mod for UT (not UT2K3/4, but the original UT). If you've ever played a FPS and though "I wish this was a bit more real", this is for you. Best realism ever, period. But that slows the gameplay a bit. Matter of taste, really. Great maps, super community, but not many people playing it. But if you can get your hands on a copy of UT, you really owe it to yourself to try this mod at some point. Incredible attention to detail. I can't say enough good things about it, really.

So that's my $0.02.

Matthew

Thank you for your suggestions Matt! They both look great. The only thing I am worried about is the "serious hardware" factor. I only have a 15" 1.5 g4 powerbook with 512 ram and the 64mb video card. I didn't have time to wait for shipping so I was not able to special order the 128mb video card. I will definitely try them out though and see how it plays out.

As far as realism, I enjoy it too, but I have tried games like Ghost Recon etc.. and they are supposed to be real but I did find gameplay to just be slightly too slow. The thing I appreciated about CS and DoD (what I was really in to) was the fast game play. I am not a serious gamer, I just want to get on and have fun for an hour or so online playing a FPS against real people.

[Luca Rescigno]

Actually I just sold a copy of Call Of Duty on eBay for $30. You can probably find another copy there. Also look for used copies on Amazon. Don't buy from Apple, they'll charge $50 for just about any game, even if it's many years old.

[Turnpike]

CoD's demo is the third level (I believe the third... it skips the training level and the first "real" level) and the thrid level only, and only single player.

America's Army is free, so go ahead and try it... legally free that is.

I think that machine would be able to handle America's Army.... should handle most anything out today (read: not Doom III) if not at the highest quality.



That CoD error does sound most likely like it was modded or something... somehow it's integrity was breached before you played it, either through a poor mod-job or a bad download. Proof of karma, perhaps. But yes, even if you pirate you can still not play the multiplayer... but the single player campaign in CoD is very, very good, and definitely deserves to be treated as more than an introduction to the "real" game of multiplayer. CoD would be worth the money (to me) even without the multiplayer.

[Fusion]

Originally posted by Luca Rescigno:
Actually I just sold a copy of Call Of Duty on eBay for $30. You can probably find another copy there. Also look for used copies on Amazon. Don't buy from Apple, they'll charge $50 for just about any game, even if it's many years old.

Was there a reason you sold it?

[az_matt]

Originally posted by Fusion:
Thank you for your suggestions Matt! They both look great. The only thing I am worried about is the "serious hardware" factor. I only have a 15" 1.5 g4 powerbook with 512 ram and the 64mb video card. I didn't have time to wait for shipping so I was not able to special order the 128mb video card. I will definitely try them out though and see how it plays out.

As far as realism, I enjoy it too, but I have tried games like Ghost Recon etc.. and they are supposed to be real but I did find gameplay to just be slightly too slow. The thing I appreciated about CS and DoD (what I was really in to) was the fast game play. I am not a serious gamer, I just want to get on and have fun for an hour or so online playing a FPS against real people.

DoD! That was my favorite HL mod. I'd been playing for years until I switched to Mac about three months ago... Too bad that Valve refuses to port HL to the Mac. I was pretty active on the official DoD forums for a while, and played quite a bit on pubs as "Big_Duke_06."

AA is very good. My 12" 1.33 PB is just barely too slow to be playable. But with what everyone is saying about how 10.3.6 fixed the Go5200 in the 12" PBs, I think I'm gonna download it and try again. I'd think that if you were careful with the options, a 1.5 15" with the better video card should play it pretty well.

I find AA is a very similar experience to DoD beta 3.1 - my favorite version. It's not cheetah-on-meth fast like CS, but not too slow, either. The rifles are powerful if you know how to use them, and teamplay is very important. It uses the CS-style rounds, whereas I really liked the DoD spawn system... But that's about my only gripe.

Definitely check it out. Can't beat free.

And everyone needs to check out Infiltration at least once. Best Mod Evar for Any Game, IMHO. Not everyone's cup of tea, but the level of effort and attention to detail is unreal. And it has some of the best maps of any online FPS - retail or mod. Check it out, get a feel for it... You might get hooked. Hell, I need to find a copy of UT for the Mac so I can play again.

Matthew

[Luca Rescigno]

Originally posted by Fusion:
Was there a reason you sold it?

Yeah, I game on a PC now. It runs pretty well on a Mac if you have a lot of hardware (as opposed to a lot of Mac games that suck regardless of hardware), but it's still much better on a PC.

I played it to death... so much fun. I finished the campaign a couple times on the hardest difficulty level, but multiplayer adds a lot of replay value. I'm thinking of buying the PC version myself - so far I've only played it on other peoples' computers.

[The iMac Man]

Dude, if you liked DoD, you'll love the Heat of Battle mod for CoD!! That is what all the old DoD fans are playing.

And, evaluating a game based on a version you downloaded is not fair. You have no idea what has been done to that file, or what might have happened during the download.

Evaluate the demo, not a pirated copy. And, FYI, the demo performs a tad worse than the full version. And, I run CoD on my 800mhz G4 iMac, so you should have no problems, performance-wise.

[ikarus]

check out true combat, a quake 3 mod, www.truecombat.com, it's somewhat like counterstrike, decent number of people playing it.

[Fusion]

Originally posted by The iMac Man:
Dude, if you liked DoD, you'll love the Heat of Battle mod for CoD!! That is what all the old DoD fans are playing.

And, evaluating a game based on a version you downloaded is not fair. You have no idea what has been done to that file, or what might have happened during the download.

Evaluate the demo, not a pirated copy. And, FYI, the demo performs a tad worse than the full version. And, I run CoD on my 800mhz G4 iMac, so you should have no problems, performance-wise.

Alrighty, that did it, you convinced me. I had the MacMice BT mouse to return at my local London Drugs and they just happened to have a copy of it in so I picked it up.

I was extremely scared when installing it, because the torrent that I had seemed to be the exact same thing, just a disc image of it, so when I was loading the second level I was cringing, but.... it worked!

Gameplay seems really fun, but it is slow on my computer. I am not sure what's up. I mean, its definitely not as fast as CS used to be on my Pentium 3. However, I still only have the stock 512mb of RAM in my powerbook, so I assume that once I am able to upgrade this to 1 or 2 gigs, that will help performance out a lot.

Also, the resolution is a bit strange. I think it is stretching 800x600 on my powerbook to fit but still keeping the aspect ratio in tact, because there is black bars on each side of the screen. I read the included readme though and it said that custom widescreen resolution was possible, you just had to do it through the console. So I followed these steps...

~console
set r_customwidth 1280
- got message saying that it would change after restart
set r_customwidth 854
- got message saying that it would change after restart
set r_mod -1
- no message
restarted game
no change ?!?
tried again, I don't even get the messages this time after entering the commands. Anyone have an idea?

I got online, and was a little surprised at the number of servers. There were only about 20 or so. Is this normal or is there just not that many people playing it? It was good online game play though. Besides the game being slightly lagging, it was fun to do some online FPS again, its been literally a year and a half. Fun times.

I soon got off and wanted to try that heat of battle mod. I noticed v.4 came out but it was an .exe, so obviously the PC version. Any word on when the mac version of the v.4 is going to come out and where to download it? I am really excited to try it out. Should I just go ahead and download 3.2?

Anyway, I'll be messing around with the 1st person game when I get back from vacation next week and keep you updated. Thanx again for the help, especially iMac Man, I was extremely impressed that I didn't get a million responses like "google it idiot" or something like that. I really wanted real user feedback and its what I got. Thank you!

[Judge_Fire]

Frag-Ops!

I've been playing CS Source (on my PC) a lot lately, but I find FO more interesting and a bit harder. It's a UT2K4 mod, so you'll need that first.

It has player classes which emphasize different features, a 'War' mode with vehicles (which I haven't gotten into, I prefer CS style 'Missions')

It doesn't have enough servers, though.

But it rocks.

J

[The iMac Man]

I know nothing about enabling widescreen... but, it sounds like what you did should have been right.

The reason you only saw like 20 servers is probably because you haven't updated CoD to version 1.4. Download the update from:

http://www.macgamefiles.com/detail.php?item=18217

Heat of Battle v4 just came out last night, and there is a map pack coming out later this week, so I was going to wait and do the Mac package when the map pack comes out, so it can all be combined into one, simple download.

There have also been some serious issues reported with some of the new maps, which I am currently trying to work out before releasing it.

Try tweaking your settings if CoD is running slow for you. Turn model details down a bit, and maybe try bilinear filtering, instead of trilinear. If you have many things running in the background on your system, menu items, etc, you may want to create a new user that you can keep fresh for gaming, thus allowing the absolute most CPU for the game.

I'll post a new thread here when HoBv4 is ready for the Mac... I'm trying to get it out as fast as possible, but I want to wait for the map pack, and see if I can fix this bug.

[The iMac Man]

Oh, and don't forget to check out Revolt! That is the mod that is most like Counter Strike for CoD.

Also, if it lags bad on you, try turning off "Wall Marks" They use that feature to add extra blood effects, and it causes really bad lag on my iMac.

[DeeKat]

America's Army - Great game, better than CS, IMHO. Based on UT2K3, though, so it requires some pretty hefty hardware to run it well. Updated often, lots of players... Give it a shot. Oh, and it's free. (Well, it's your tax dollars at work, anyway)

I've been trying America's Army for a couple a days and i must says it's pretty cool. Great realism and game play. i like the fact that there is no Medpacks! it you get hit, you die! good community on the servers i've played on (people were patient with me being real bad and weak, because even if i was quite good at MOHAA and HALO, this game as nothing to do with them). I've played with an experience squad leader last night and you really get the feel of an army platoon (covering yout teammates, flashbanging room beforre clearing them, etc...). And best of all, it's free

Try it out!
DeeKat

[Fusion]

Originally posted by The iMac Man:
I know nothing about enabling widescreen... but, it sounds like what you did should have been right.

The reason you only saw like 20 servers is probably because you haven't updated CoD to version 1.4. Download the update from:

http://www.macgamefiles.com/detail.php?item=18217

Heat of Battle v4 just came out last night, and there is a map pack coming out later this week, so I was going to wait and do the Mac package when the map pack comes out, so it can all be combined into one, simple download.

There have also been some serious issues reported with some of the new maps, which I am currently trying to work out before releasing it.

Try tweaking your settings if CoD is running slow for you. Turn model details down a bit, and maybe try bilinear filtering, instead of trilinear. If you have many things running in the background on your system, menu items, etc, you may want to create a new user that you can keep fresh for gaming, thus allowing the absolute most CPU for the game.

I'll post a new thread here when HoBv4 is ready for the Mac... I'm trying to get it out as fast as possible, but I want to wait for the map pack, and see if I can fix this bug.

So is the new heat of battle for Mac out yet and is there a all in one download link anywhere?

[The iMac Man]

Originally posted by Fusion:
So is the new heat of battle for Mac out yet and is there a all in one download link anywhere?

Well, Heat of Battle v4 has been out for about a week now, but I'm waiting to release the Mac package when the community map pack is released, which should be very very soon.

Hopefully sometime early this week still.

I will post a new thread here when it's ready!

[Fusion]

I just downloaded the revolt mod. It looks awesome, except.... I can't figure out how to connect to a server. I changed the game name to revolt CTF and did a refresh and nothing showed up. I did a search on the internet and found an active server but I have no idea how to connect to an ip address once in the game.

Any help?

[The iMac Man]

Originally posted by Fusion:
I just downloaded the revolt mod. It looks awesome, except.... I can't figure out how to connect to a server. I changed the game name to revolt CTF and did a refresh and nothing showed up. I did a search on the internet and found an active server but I have no idea how to connect to an ip address once in the game.

Any help?

Do you have the CoD 1.4 update installed?

Revolt CTF is not that popular of a gametype. I'd leave the gametype set to all, and just look for any server with a gametype starting in "Rev_"

Also, make sure in the "Filters" you have it set to show pure, unpure, full, empty... everything, basically.

[Fusion]

Okay,

So I was able to connec to the server. I remembered something from my CS days lol. I just dropped the console down, typed connect "ip" where "ip" was the address or the active server I found from an internet search, and it worked!

Very cool, looked like it was going to be a ton of fun..... until.....

7fps. Hmmm... I get pretty good fps in Call of Duty. Is it just because Revolt is alpha? It looks like a ton of fun though if I can get it working better.

Thanks for all your help again iMac Man!

[The iMac Man]

Yeah, Revolt is a little slower than standard CoD.

But, try turning off "Wall Marks" and that should help a lot.

[Fusion]

Originally posted by The iMac Man:
Well, Heat of Battle v4 has been out for about a week now, but I'm waiting to release the Mac package when the community map pack is released, which should be very very soon.

Hopefully sometime early this week still.

I will post a new thread here when it's ready!

So did you just forget to post or is it still not out yet?

[Arolte]

Soldier of Fortune 2 (multiplayer)

[The iMac Man]

Originally posted by Fusion:
So did you just forget to post or is it still not out yet?

The PC version is out, but I am waiting for the map pack to be released, so I can put it all in one package.

We ran into a few problems with the map pack, but I think we worked it all out over the weekend.

It all should be good to go early this week, hopefully.

[Luca Rescigno]

Oh yeah, I just realized that Call Of Duty has a multiplayer game mode that is identical to CounterStrike. Each player only gets one life, one team gets the bomb, and so on. When I first played that game type I had no idea what CounterStrike's gameplay was like and I was confused, but since then I've become familiar with it.

[Turias]

Call of Duty is great. I'm also a huge fan of TacticalOps (a MOD for Unreal Tournament). It's a little old, but it's quite popular and plays a lot like CS (I actually like the TO gameplay quite a bit more).

[Fusion]

Originally posted by The iMac Man:
The PC version is out, but I am waiting for the map pack to be released, so I can put it all in one package.

We ran into a few problems with the map pack, but I think we worked it all out over the weekend.

It all should be good to go early this week, hopefully.

That is great news! I can't wait to try this game out. I haven't tried the game yet and am getting very anxious. Call of Duty has been fun though.