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boy8cookie · May 31, 2005, 02:10 AM

I know bots n stuff are not allowed and what ever but all the pc ppl have em...

Basically I was wondering if its possible to make a d2 bot using automator. Any insight is apprecaited.

Kristoff · May 31, 2005, 12:48 PM

uh...no.

Furthermore, I will take this opportunity to say this about anyone who cheats in any way using bots, wallhacks, detail and brightness hacks, fluorescent skins, distance or fov hacks:

Said people are lame, moronic, retards.

I can't imagine a bigger waste of time running around using cheats and hacks. How pointless is that?

These guys run around looking through walls shooting people who are behind them, and looking at a scene that looks anything but realistic. I guess they got tired of tugging at their own genitalia, so they have to go jack other people off.

Millennium · May 31, 2005, 01:17 PM

In order for Automator to be able to create bots like this, the game would have to expose an awful lot of functionality via Apple Events or OSA, which are what Automator uses to do its stuff. You would need to be able to programatically move the player around and cause it to perform any action that it might perform if played by a human (running, jumping, shooting, using items, or whatever is appropriate to the game). In most games which involve shooting, you would also have to cause the bot to aim. Not only would you need to expose that, however, but you would also need to expose functionality for the bot to "see" what is going on: its own position and the positions of enemies, walls, and anything else which the game might contain.

I don't know of any games which expose this kind of functionality -or, in most cases, any functionality at all- to AE or OSA. Most games don't use any kind of standard interface, either; they roll their own using whatever technologies the game itself uses. Because of this, anyone wishing to write a bot would need to actually hack into the game's code itself and find ways to manipulate it. This can be done, of course; most bots on Windows work this way. However, it is rare to find a Mac developer willing to invest that kind of time into such a useless effort.

Play honorably. You will be a better person for it.

The iMac Man · May 31, 2005, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by Kristoff

Furthermore, I will take this opportunity to say this about anyone who cheats in any way using bots...

Uh, do you know what a bot is?

If so, then how can you imagine that using bots is cheaing!?!?

People use bots so they can play multiplayer by themselves.

I see no way at all that someone could use bots to cheat in any way whatsoever.

Kristoff · May 31, 2005, 01:51 PM

you've never heard of aimbots?

Why do you think he would say "I know bots n stuff are not allowed and what ever but all the pc ppl have em..."

The iMac Man · May 31, 2005, 01:54 PM

An aimbot and a bot are two completely different things.

But, now that you point it out, I guess he was referring to an "aimbot", not "bots"

boy8cookie · Jun 1, 2005, 03:34 AM

I was not referring to an aim bot at all... to me a bot is that does something repetatively. In diablo 2 there are bosses that have better item drops and people run them over and over...PC users have bots do this for them, emulating clicks on their screen telling the character where to go and what spells to use etc..

The iMac Man · Jun 1, 2005, 09:21 AM

Well, I'm not sure what that is either.

A "bot" is an AI enemy. People put them in multiplayer games so they can play alone, or with a few other real people, and then fill the rest of the server with bots.

wuzup101 · Jun 2, 2005, 11:10 AM

A bot can mean many different things... most of them discussed in this post. I have to say that the bot you hope for (one that does tasks in repition is no better than an aim bot IMHO. The only bots that I approve of are of course the type used to practice with (IE: AI virtual players) sometimes refered to as sim bots among other things.