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Flip500 · 03:13 PM

I was looking around and thought that if there was a way to runs linux on my mac then i could play things like CS (because HL 1&2 are for Linux) I found http://www.mklinux.org/ , would this "work"? or is this Linux over mac really just for simple programs? or not even that....

Googling and found this great site too: http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/ma.../30/linux.html

Chuckit · Sep 25, 2005, 04:38 PM

You could run Linux on a Mac (there are several versions), but unless they have a PowerPC build of HalfLife, it's not going to make any difference.

Flip500 · Sep 25, 2005, 05:57 PM

oh... thanks

Sarc · Sep 25, 2005, 06:59 PM

Wait for the Intel based Macs, get one.
Then buy a copy of Windows XP
Format you new Mac's drive with two partitions.
Install Mac OS X in one, and Windows XP on the other.
Then pay 50 USD per game you want.
Install the game.
Duall boot into Windows.
Play at full blown speed.

... or give up on gaming altogether.

Flip500 · Sep 25, 2005, 07:05 PM

well I just got a new mac last summer... so i think what i'm going to end up doing is just getting the bottom of the line dell...

Or do you think that when the intel based macs come out that I could get tiger and one of the intel chips, and have it installed? that should be okay... unless the motherboard has to be all new for the intel chips ect. what do you guys think?\

And i'm not giving up on gaming... who the hell do you think you're talking to!

Helmling · Sep 25, 2005, 08:51 PM

Within minutes of the release of the first Intel-driven Mac someone will have a good emulator running and you'll be able to play Windows games without having to screw around with a dual boot.

That's my prediction anyway.

I too have given up the joys of CS for the higher calling of computing that works. You don't have to give up games to be a Mac user. There's lots of good games on Mac, but of course, you don't get first run games and you miss out on some key titles--like CS, or Civ 3: Conquests.

TFunkadelic · Sep 25, 2005, 09:59 PM

Only bad thing is there aren't any of the GREAT games for mac, just a bunch of average ones. Counter Strike, despite it's faults, will always be my favorite FPS, and game in general.

Chuckit · Sep 25, 2005, 10:20 PM

I can't talk about now, because all the games I play are cross-platform or console these days, but Bungie's old games back when they were Mac-only were truly great. Marathon does show its age, but you can still see what an awesome game it was back when it was against Doom. And I'd say Myth stacks up favorably against most strategy games like it that I've seen.

goMac · Sep 26, 2005, 02:34 AM

Originally Posted by Flip500

I was looking around and thought that if there was a way to runs linux on my mac then i could play things like CS (because HL 1&2 are for Linux) I found http://www.mklinux.org/ , would this "work"? or is this Linux over mac really just for simple programs? or not even that....

Googling and found this great site too: http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/ma.../30/linux.html

They don't have Half Life 1 and Half Life 2 for Linux. You can run translation software that lets you play Half Life 1 and Half Life 2 from the Windows versions.

)\/(aelstrom · Sep 26, 2005, 02:48 AM

Actually, the Darwine project should already work on x86 macs, and more linux/wine solutions will probably be devv'd by then. I am fairly sure the Darwine project will be one of the quicker ones out there.

Anyway, as a sidenote, the Marathon Aleph One engine has the capacity for full 3-d models and maps. Not bad for 1994.

-)\/(

goMac · Sep 26, 2005, 02:51 AM

Originally Posted by )\/(aelstrom

Actually, the Darwine project should already work on x86 macs, and more linux/wine solutions will probably be devv'd by then. I am fairly sure the Darwine project will be one of the quicker ones out there.

Anyway, as a sidenote, the Marathon Aleph One engine has the capacity for full 3-d models and maps. Not bad for 1994.

-)\/(

Darwine may be able to run Half Life 1 in OpenGL mode, but it's not going to run Half Life 2.

Flip500 · Sep 26, 2005, 05:25 AM

Hemling: How would an emulator work to play windows games on a mac if I would still have the PowerPc chip? And if so than how does the mac running intel chip help make an emulator to run windows games, couldn't someone just make one now? and if it would and you see an emulator please in the future, please post about it!

Sarc · Sep 26, 2005, 01:51 PM

Half-Life is a very sensitive topic for us Mac users ....

{PHOTON}Mazz1020 · 02:43 PM

Ha yea very sesnitive topic....

Flip500 · Sep 26, 2005, 05:02 PM

Espesically since all Sierra is doing is throwing away money... I really wonder if the CEO is just sitting there thinking "Haha, look at all those mac users ready to get Half Life! Well their in my control now!" jerk....

{PHOTON}Mazz1020 · Sep 27, 2005, 02:42 PM

haha yea screw anti war rallys we should have HALF LIFE FOR MAC rallys lol

Flip500 · Sep 27, 2005, 04:30 PM

Wow, that's just a little random...

P.S. oh man.... i thought we could get thourgh a whole thread with out bringing up wow...

Helmling · Sep 27, 2005, 11:38 PM

Flip,

It won't. Your PowerPC chip, like mine, will never run CS.

However, we can go get an Intel mini as soon as they come out and be in CS heaven. I mean, the game is years old. It doesn't take much power to play it.

Chuckit · Sep 28, 2005, 12:18 AM

Originally Posted by Helmling

However, we can go get an Intel mini as soon as they come out and be in CS heaven.

You hope.

Flip500 · Sep 28, 2005, 05:44 AM

no killing our dreams chuckit!

Not a bad idea Helming, plus if any one did coome out with an emulator, (IF) it would probally just be another crappy Virtual PC type thing...

quote68 · Sep 28, 2005, 11:24 AM

Download Enemy Territory. It's like counterstrike only better looking and lots of fun.

goMac · Sep 28, 2005, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by Helmling

However, we can go get an Intel mini as soon as they come out and be in CS heaven. I mean, the game is years old. It doesn't take much power to play it.

CS has already been redone in the Half Life 2 engine, meaning it takes a bit more horsepower.

Whatever the case, it won't be playable under WINE in Mac OS X. WINE does not have enough DirectX emulation to pull it off.

Sarc · Sep 29, 2005, 12:17 AM

according to gamespy.com/stats, original CS is still more played than the version for the HL2 engine.

and on the DirectX thing. the HL1 engine supports OpenGL.

Flip500 · Sep 29, 2005, 06:08 AM

I've already tried Enemy Terirorry... not really my favorite at all. I often play Tactical Ops, but whenever i play CS over my friends house just get really jelous...

P.S. so are so saying we could run HL1 and it's version of CS?

Sarc · 12:21 PM

not on the current line up of Macs.

anyway, on an intresting note, do a google search for "007 Nightfire engine" and see what comes up.

quote68 · Oct 3, 2005, 02:57 PM

That's pretty messed up. Think someone could hack nightfire into halflife? That'd be sick. Especially since Mac users would download it and Valve wouldn't get one freaking penny. Dicks.

Sarc · Oct 3, 2005, 07:02 PM

short answer, no
long answer, not in this life

TFunkadelic · Oct 4, 2005, 06:13 PM

I wish people modded things for mac as much as they do with pc. maybe I sold just learn myself and take this into my own hands.

Flip500 · 06:47 PM

I think you should too... now go out there and start a revolution! I'll watch from here...

quote68 · Oct 4, 2005, 07:26 PM

Why? If the engine is ported, all you'd have to do would be change the variables to the halflife version, right? Then just replace the folders that hold the game information.

Flip500 · Oct 4, 2005, 08:27 PM

I was talking about a mac gaming revolution in general... but! that would be amazing if someone could port an engine that would work... and I really wish they would. does anyone here think they have the knowledge, experiance and skill to do it?

quote68 · Oct 5, 2005, 12:32 AM

But that's just it. The engine is already here. In the 007 Knightfire game. That's OSX ported already.

Sarc · Oct 5, 2005, 01:49 PM

the game was already here 5 years ago, for the Classic Mac OS.
you see, Mac HL was ported and delivered by Logicware (I think) and payed for by Sierra.
It just wasn't released. Do a forum search for some history on it.

JesusKungFu'[/quote]68 · Oct 5, 2005, 02:06 PM

It wasn't totally done. otherwise it would have gotten leaked somehow.

Flip500 · Oct 5, 2005, 07:08 PM

but doesn't the nightfire engine have to be modified to be used for HL? Thats what i meant...

Sarc · Oct 5, 2005, 08:28 PM

no, you can't, it's like trying to play quake3 on the MoH:AA engine, because MoH is based on the q3 engine.
if you wanted to do that, you would need the suorce code, but it would be a really dumb thing to do.
MacHL died, get over it.

wait for the intel macs and dual boot then.

bad_quote · Oct 5, 2005, 09:26 PM

i'm just saying it could be done.

Sarc · Oct 6, 2005, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by bad_quote

i'm just saying it could be done.

you would need the surce. so no. but this is turning into a yes-no debate, wich sucks.