[Hawkeye_a]

Originally Posted by starman

At least with a 360 you can DO something with it without a game.

Oh...cool...like what ? fry an egg on it ? Kudos to all those people who buy an XB360 without a game.... your putting your money to good use.

[goMac]

For perspective on the controller price issue:

http://www.xbox.com:80/en-US/hardwar...esscontroller/

[starman]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye_a

Oh...cool...like what ? fry an egg on it ? Kudos to all those people who buy an XB360 without a game.... your putting your money to good use.

So ignorant....

[Dark Helmet]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye_a

Oh...cool...like what ? fry an egg on it ? Kudos to all those people who buy an XB360 without a game.... your putting your money to good use.

Oh come on, you know there is a million thing to do with the 360 even if you don't have a single purchased game.

[Gossamer]

Originally Posted by goMac

For perspective on the controller price issue:

http://www.xbox.com:80/en-US/hardwar...esscontroller/

Ouch...an extra $150 if you want to play with your friends...

[Dark Helmet]

Originally Posted by Gossamer

Ouch...an extra $150 if you want to play with your friends...

Microsoft markets the system to play with friends ONLINE not in groups in the room so you don't have to spend money on controllers for others.

[goMac]

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Microsoft markets the system to play with friends ONLINE not in groups in the room so you don't have to spend money on controllers for others.

So you play with other people who don't own a 360 using magic?

I mean, it makes perfect sense. Instead of everyone just needing a controller, they just have to buy an entire XBox 360...

[torsoboy]

I am a nintendo fanboy of sorts... owned every nintendo system, and never anything else... but the Wii is too expensive for what it is. They put emphasis on how they didn't have a powerful multimedia machine, and then charge almost the same price as the core 360 that is a powerful machine with multimedia capabilities. I think I will be waiting on this one for a year or so, waiting for it to come down to $150. And screw them for their $5-10 old games and $60 controllers (yes, I know that includes the nunchuka). The lost one sale with me.

[Hawkeye_a]

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Oh come on, you know there is a million thing to do with the 360 even if you don't have a single purchased game.

I know, and im sure that a large portion(in not all) of the XB360s sold around the world were NOT baught by consumers to play videogames, but to use the tacked on functionality.

Similarily most of the Wiis that Nintendo will sell will be to consumers who want to browse the web on their TVs and want to check the weather and view photos, but definately NOT to play videogames.

PS>> for my multimedia "PC"/"set top box", the iTV will be MORE than adequate, small+quiet+simple. So, thus far...my videogame+media"PC" setup will set me back...$250+$299....$550. i hate to invest in half-arsed products, just to end up doubling up when the good stuff actually does come out (Xb360 vs iTV)

[screamingFit]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye_a

PS>> for my multimedia "PC"/"set top box", the iTV will be MORE than adequate, small+quiet+simple. So, thus far...my videogame+media"PC" setup will set me back...$250+$299....$550. i hate to invest in half-arsed products, just to end up doubling up when the good stuff actually does come out (Xb360 vs iTV)

iTV will only be worthwhile if it's built upon Quicktime and allows Quicktime plugins (Flip4Mac, divx, etc.) or similar tech. The thing that pisses me off about my 360s video playing abilities is that is need to buy a MCE box to stream video to it or watch a non-DVD format recording locally on the box. Takes the 360 from being a simple, all in one media solution to a buggy, costly, half-assed solution. I have to keep my original XBOX with XMBC around to provide streaming video to my screen.

If I can only stream iTunes store video or, OSX/Media Center OS to iTV, no way will I buy it.

[starman]

Use Connect360 on the Mac.

[Dark Helmet]

Originally Posted by goMac

So you play with other people who don't own a 360 using magic?

I mean, it makes perfect sense. Instead of everyone just needing a controller, they just have to buy an entire XBox 360...

That makes no sense but alright.

[screamingFit]

Originally Posted by starman

Use Connect360 on the Mac.

Streaming VIDEO not pictures and music.

Connect360 does not stream video!

[starman]

Ok, I'm SORRY.

[goMac]

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

That makes no sense but alright.

Sure it does. You're saying if you want 4 people to play together on an XBox 360, the way it's supposed to be done is to have each person buy an XBox 360 instead of just getting four controllers. This is when you're complaining about the price of controllers, and when I can probably count the number of people I know who own an XBox 360 on one hand. In fact, whenever I've played multiplayer Halo, it's never been on Live. It's always been at a party of some sort, with four controllers. I've played once with networked XBox's, but that was an 8 person match. Getting 4 controllers is far cheaper than getting 4 XBoxes.

[starman]

Sorry, but the split-screen FPS games have always made me laugh. Part of the fun is NOT knowing where the other person was. This is why I never understood why Goldeneye was so popular.

[Dakar]

Originally Posted by goMac

In fact, whenever I've played multiplayer Halo, it's never been on Live. It's always been at a party of some sort, with four controllers. I've played once with networked XBox's, but that was an 8 person match. Getting 4 controllers is far cheaper than getting 4 XBoxes.

That's cuz you're stuck in a Nintendo mentality.

[Hawkeye_a]

Wii-Day down under and Europe is December 7th.....i can finally breathe a sigh of relief........ <sigh>

I was expecting them to delay the launch until March ala SONY. Launching before the 25th in these territories will definately be benefcial.... so i guess ill wait for you Yanks to have a go and post reviews

Cheers