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Jawbone54 · Dec 13, 2006, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

So you feel that partisan bickering actually is the point of video game systems, rather than playing video games?

YES!!!

*pounds desk*

[SIDE NOTE] It is also the point of government.

Gamoe · Dec 13, 2006, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by Miniryu

More importantly, look at the PEOPLE who are playing/buying the systems. Wii is the first console I have owned since I got my Sega Saturn (which I adored). My uncles, cousins and parents all want to get Wiis because everyone in the family plays the games at family dinners and gatherings. My PARENTS!! They normally don't even play videogames.

Agreed! This is my first console since the Dreamcast. I'm not interested in the XBox, and I can't afford the exclusive, elusive Playstation 3. I don't consider myself a "hardcore gamer", and I've also seen my friend's parents and people who aren't normally into games get very enthusiastically into Wii Sports and other Wii games.

Originally Posted by Chuckit

His point seems to be that people are getting so caught up in evangelizing for or against their chosen hardware that they're forgetting about, you know, playing games. I think it's a valid criticism.

It's a valid point, but there's not much substance to the article. He could have said it well with far fewer words. Besides, isn't this what the Wii is all about and what Nintendo (and thus Nintendo fans) have been stressing?-- Games over tech specs.

starman · Dec 13, 2006, 08:02 PM

You can say "gameplay over graphics" as much as you want, but let's count the number of Nintendo consoles at this weekend's World Series of Videogames.

I'll wait....

Hawkeye_a · Dec 13, 2006, 08:12 PM

Yeah a lot of casual gamers will be there, right ?

starman · Dec 13, 2006, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by Hawkeye_a

Yeah a lot of casual gamers will be there, right ?

I'm just saying, if Nintendo has the best gameplay, why don't they represent?

At all?

icruise · Dec 13, 2006, 08:34 PM

This story has me a little concerned. Apparently, many PS2/1 games look bad (think badly scaled graphics) when played on a PS3. I hadn't noticed this myself, because the only PS2 games that I had played on the PS3 were 480p-compatible and they seem to look fine. But it certainly does seem that some games like Final Fantasy X look considerably worse on the PS3. In fact, I tried that one myself earlier today and it does look bad. Admittedly, PS2 games often don't look great on an HDTV with component cables (you get jaggies similar to those seen on the Wii) but this seems to be even worse.

I really hope Sony can do something about this, since I wanted to use the PS3 in place of a PS2.

PS1/PS2 graphics look like crap on PS3 - Joystiq

ink · Dec 13, 2006, 08:51 PM

Wow, that's horrible. I wonder if the PS3 has a hardware scalar on the video output; I would assume so, since even crappy on-board Intel chipsets do. Is it broken?

Dark Helmet · Dec 13, 2006, 09:13 PM

MMMm graphics:

YouTube - Dark Sector GP Montage

And... it looks fun too!

MaxPower2k3 · Dec 13, 2006, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

MMMm graphics:

YouTube - Dark Sector GP Montage

And... it looks fun too!

That's some crazy blade he's got there. Looks like fun. PS3 and 360?

Dark Helmet · Dec 13, 2006, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by MaxPower2k3

PS3 and 360?

Yup as far as I know.

Eug Wanker · Dec 13, 2006, 10:36 PM

3.4 million Xbox 360s and 42000 HD DVD drives sold in the US by the end of November.

Dark Helmet · Dec 13, 2006, 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

3.4 million Xbox 360s and 42000 HD DVD drives sold in the US by the end of November.

"So technically, within the gaming universe the PS3/Blu-ray install base is nearly five times greater."

Know that would happen the second the PS3 shipped.

Would MS consider 9 million Xbox's and 42,000 HD-DVD add ons a good attachment rate?
How many Xbox owners out of 10 does that equal who bought the drive?

MindFad · Dec 14, 2006, 01:40 AM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

MMMm graphics:

YouTube - Dark Sector GP Montage

And... it looks fun too!

RE4 meets Krull!

starman · Dec 14, 2006, 07:16 AM

Wow. Someone remembers Krull.

smacintush · Dec 14, 2006, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

So you feel that partisan bickering actually is the point of video game systems, rather than playing video games?

No, I think that the idea that those of us who enjoy bickering are forgetting about the playing itself is one that is simply made up. What he is saying is that HE feels that people should stop the bickering and enjoy the games. I say that I can bicker and it doesn't detract from the fun at all.

Who is he to say that we aren't seeing the forest for the trees? He's full of crap.

smacintush · Dec 14, 2006, 07:31 AM

Originally Posted by starman

Wow. Someone remembers Krull.

Man, I actually read the book…way back when.

starman · Dec 14, 2006, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by smacintush

Man, I actually read the book…way back when.

I still HAVE the book.