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starman · May 25, 2006, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by TETENAL

I think the speakers in the control will bring spatiality in sound to much more people than Dolby surround would.

Dolby's been in N products since the N64. Dropping it iwould be retarded. Rogue Squadron and Zelda in surround was badass.

Millennium · May 25, 2006, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by starman

Dolby's been in N products since the N64. Dropping it iwould be retarded. Rogue Squadron and Zelda in surround was badass.

Dolby has been there, but optical hasn't. Most likely, the Wii will continue to use the same Dolby technology as the previous generations of Nintendo consoles.

ink · May 25, 2006, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by TETENAL

I think the speakers in the control will bring spatiality in sound to much more people than Dolby surround would.

Intersting point; The Wii will be have several "rear" speakers in the Wii remotes. It'll still be a pain to hook into my stereo system though.

Originally Posted by Millennium

Dolby has been there, but optical hasn't. Most likely, the Wii will continue to use the same Dolby technology as the previous generations of Nintendo consoles.

That's using channel tricks with stereo to simulate spacial sound; not really the same thing. You can't put 5 or 6 channels down a couple pair of analog audio copper cables.

goMac · May 25, 2006, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by Socially Awkward Solo

And peoples homes?

...Are you going to tell us now you have halogen track lighting around your TV?

Or are you still getting it installed so you can come up with another excuse of why Nintendo sucks?

Dark Helmet · May 25, 2006, 11:50 PM

Oh here we go.. just like they did before the Gamecube they are admitting the mistakes of the previous system...

http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/fe...id=12788&rp=49

goMac · May 26, 2006, 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Oh here we go.. just like they did before the Gamecube they are admitting the mistakes of the previous system...

http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/fe...id=12788&rp=49

If they said the Gamecube was an astounding success you'd still be criticizing them.

torsoboy · May 26, 2006, 12:24 AM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Oh here we go.. just like they did before the Gamecube they are admitting the mistakes of the previous system...

http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/fe...id=12788&rp=49

They didn't say there was anything wrong with the GameCube, what they said was "the initial software lineup for the GameCube was simply not "diverse and strong enough from a first and third-party perspective."" So in other words they want this system to have have more games from the get-go. If that is their biggest mistake, I think they have done a good job. I think every game platform has said that this wave is going to have a super line-up.

You need to get a life. Something other than searching day and night for any scraps of anti-nintendo news you can find.

Hawkeye_a · May 26, 2006, 01:27 AM

Originally Posted by torsoboy

They didn't say there was anything wrong with the GameCube, what they said was "the initial software lineup for the GameCube was simply not "diverse and strong enough from a first and third-party perspective."" So in other words they want this system to have have more games from the get-go. If that is their biggest mistake, I think they have done a good job. I think every game platform has said that this wave is going to have a super line-up.

You need to get a life. Something other than searching day and night for any scraps of anti-nintendo news you can find.

Thats just what he does, everyone here knows it lol.

Millennium · May 26, 2006, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Oh here we go.. just like they did before the Gamecube they are admitting the mistakes of the previous system...

http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/fe...id=12788&rp=49

"The mistakes of the previous system"? None of the things they mention here seem to be attributes of the previous system at all. They're problems with the way the system was launched.

Of course, I can see why you'd mistake them for attributes of the GameCube: the article's wording was slanted that way. Since that's what you want to hear, it's what you heard.

goMac · May 26, 2006, 11:35 AM

Apparently when Japan showed interest in the PS3, it wasn't in a good way.

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?op...=3103&Itemid=2

Busemann · May 26, 2006, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by Millennium

"The mistakes of the previous system"? None of the things they mention here seem to be attributes of the previous system at all. They're problems with the way the system was launched.

Of course, I can see why you'd mistake them for attributes of the GameCube: the article's wording was slanted that way. Since that's what you want to hear, it's what you heard.

Oh come on, that means exactly the same. When people talk about the Dreamcast as a failure, they don't refer to the machine itself--which was incredibly well engineered at the time--but rather how it was launched and marketed.

As the article says, the GameCube was a failure because of a very weak lineup of first and third party titles, and poor marketing.

Originally Posted by torsoboy

You people need to get a life. Something other than searching day and night for any scraps of anti-Sony/Nintendo/MS news you can find.

I fixed that one for you

olePigeon · May 26, 2006, 01:40 PM

Torsoboy, did you get your nick from "Albuquerque?"

torsoboy · May 26, 2006, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by olePigeon

Torsoboy, did you get your nick from "Albuquerque?"

Sure did. And suprisingly no one has used it on much of anything. A great nickname I think.

torsoboy · May 26, 2006, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by Busemann

Oh come on, that means exactly the same. When people talk about the Dreamcast as a failure, they don't refer to the machine itself--which was incredibly well engineered at the time--but rather how it was launched and marketed.

As the article says, the GameCube was a failure because of a very weak lineup of first and third party titles, and poor marketing.

Did you forget to read the article before posting? here is a quote from the article:

"While by no means a failure, clearly the GameCube has not been the stellar success that Nintendo had hoped it would be."

So no, they were not saying it was a failure, they were saying it had a bad startup of games and it didn't do as well as they had hoped.

olePigeon · May 26, 2006, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by torsoboy

Sure did. And suprisingly no one has used it on much of anything. A great nickname I think.

Well, sure! I don't know why anyone would complain about it.

ink · May 26, 2006, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by torsoboy

"While by no means a failure, clearly the GameCube has not been the stellar success that Nintendo had hoped it would be."

Busemann · 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by torsoboy

Did you forget to read the article before posting? here is a quote from the article:

"While by no means a failure, clearly the GameCube has not been the stellar success that Nintendo had hoped it would be."

So no, they were not saying it was a failure, they were saying it had a bad startup of games and it didn't do as well as they had hoped.

I just like to call a spade for a spade. In my book, the GC was a failure, both in terms of quality titles and sales. Now I wouldn't call the Nintendo 64 a failure--as I said earlier in this thread, I still think it's one of the best consoles ever made because of all the AAA titles-- but the GC was a major letdown in most aspects

Jim Paradise · May 26, 2006, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by Busemann

I just like to call a spade for a spade. In my book, the GC was a failure, both in terms of quality titles and sales.

Meh.

For many people, it had plenty of great titles, was the most stylish of the consoles, had the best controller, and was a great system. In fact, it's still that for many people.