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Busemann · 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by Hawkeye_a

Now M$ and Nintendo are goin with standard DVD-DL discs and Sony is going with the unproven, unstandard, properietary format, that is expensive across the board.

You know they do something right when Nintendo fanboys have to resort to lies in order to make their points. BluRay is a standard, bub, and it'll even come equipped in all Macs a year or so from now.

Hawkeye_a · Jun 1, 2006, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by Busemann

You know they do something right when Nintendo fanboys have to resort to lies in order to make their points. BluRay is a standard, bub, and it'll even come equipped in all Macs a year or so from now.

Ummmmm...heresay ? no offence "bub"....but last i checked Sony was the developer of Blu-Ray and any studio that wants to release content on that format will have to pay sony a royalty fee. I dont know if this has changed ...so yea.

On the other hand...HD-DVD is developed by the same independent group that brought you DVDs. So at the very least BluRay is properietary with compared to HD-DVD. Claiming BluRay is a standard is like claiming Vista is a "standard", when it's owned by Microsoft and isnt even out yet.

PS>> i honestly couldnt care less which format is a standard or wins or whatever. i have no loyalty to either side. ill let the market decide the winner before i make my purchase 3-5 years from now.

Hawkeye_a · Jun 1, 2006, 07:13 PM

So back to games.... check out this "Red Steel" video ( http://www.infendo.com/ (scroll down) ). it appears to be a lot nicer compared towhat we saw at E3. im not sure what to beleive now lol.

goMac · Jun 1, 2006, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by Busemann

You know they do something right when Nintendo fanboys have to resort to lies in order to make their points. BluRay is a standard, bub, and it'll even come equipped in all Macs a year or so from now.

I hate to say it, being a Mac guy... but Microsoft isn't supporting Bluray, which means it won't be standard to %94 of the computer market. If given the option, I'll be buying HD-DVD myself. If Apple won't support the HDCP on HD-DVD, I'll be ripping my HD-DVD's on Windows. I don't trust Sony's "copyright protection."

ink · Jun 1, 2006, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by Hawkeye_a

Also, people had an ssue with properietary formats and non-standards....cartridges and GC discs... it "apparently" made things more expensive for developers and consumers.

That didn't have as much to do with proprietary vs. standards-compliant so much as 650MB on a 50-cent disc vs. 8MB on a $5 cart. Who knows how much blu-ray media is, but we know that DVD media is dirt cheap (but blu-ray is much better). This is going to be an interesting generation. Maybe Nintendo have finally figured out that the pirates actually help with overall sales.

Busemann · Jun 2, 2006, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by Hawkeye_a

Ummmmm...heresay ? no offence "bub"....but last i checked Sony was the developer of Blu-Ray and any studio that wants to release content on that format will have to pay sony a royalty fee. I dont know if this has changed ...so yea.

On the other hand...HD-DVD is developed by the same independent group that brought you DVDs. So at the very least BluRay is properietary with compared to HD-DVD. Claiming BluRay is a standard is like claiming Vista is a "standard", when it's owned by Microsoft and isnt even out yet.

PS>> i honestly couldnt care less which format is a standard or wins or whatever. i have no loyalty to either side. ill let the market decide the winner before i make my purchase 3-5 years from now.

Umm.. why do you even bother to make this stuff up when the facts are so easily available??

http://www.blu-ray.com/info/

Hawkeye_a · Jun 2, 2006, 09:06 AM

Mate, i dont give a flying f*ch if the consoles use cartidges, discs, crystals or pure energy. im about the games, the cost of playing em...and the implications that has for the future of the industry.

With products like Windows, Interent Explorer, ATRAC, Mini Disc, WMV and UMD....we al saw what that did for the consumer. i do not want the public to find themselves in a situation where they are at the mercy of a global corporation inorder to enjoy content. thats all.

So knock me down all you want, i really dont care about the media or the technology behind it. I dont care..i dont even want to read up about this, cause in the end...only one format will win this war...ill just see it through....i dont care if its Sony or HD-DVD or whoever wins.... if its too expensive i could even pass through the whole HD era till the next one arrives 5-10 years from now. who know ?

starman · Jun 2, 2006, 09:30 AM

Translation to the above post:

"I can't read so I'll just back out by saying I don't care".

Hawkeye_a · Jun 2, 2006, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by starman

Translation to the above post:

"I can't read so I'll just back out by saying I don't care".

exactly

goMac · Jun 3, 2006, 02:29 AM

Sony has stated they don't care about market share for the next gen war.

http://games.kikizo.com/news/200606/010.asp

I for one look forward to SWG no longer quoting market share numbers in the wake of this new commandment from on high.

angelmb · Jun 3, 2006, 12:35 PM

EDGE's next issue looks cool,

Busemann · Jun 3, 2006, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by angelmb

EDGE's next issue looks cool,

Sweet. Their E3 issues are always really good

angelmb · Jun 3, 2006, 04:06 PM

NY Times article about the Wii,

http://tinyurl.com/r694x

plus an interview with Mr. Iwata and Miyamoto,

http://tinyurl.com/lqfzu

angelmb · Jun 4, 2006, 12:10 PM

Inside SONY, a look at the upcoming PS3

nforcer · Jun 5, 2006, 01:43 AM

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32171 does not look good for Sony. If it turns out to be true, they are going to be a year late to market, have less power than the Xbox 2, cost more than the competition, have no compelling online service, and no compelling launch titles (unless you are a fan of giant enemy crabs from real battles in japanese history with weak points you can hit for massive damage).

At this point the Phantom sounds like a better deal than the PS3.

goMac · Jun 5, 2006, 03:05 AM

Originally Posted by nforcer

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32171 does not look good for Sony. If it turns out to be true, they are going to be a year late to market, have less power than the Xbox 2, cost more than the competition, have no compelling online service, and no compelling launch titles (unless you are a fan of giant enemy crabs from real battles in japanese history with weak points you can hit for massive damage).

At this point the Phantom sounds like a better deal than the PS3.

Don't worry, SWG will still buy one. He'll probably will love watching Big Momma's house too.

After all it's not Nintendo.

ink · 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by nforcer

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32171 does not look good for Sony. If it turns out to be true, they are going to be a year late to market, have less power than the Xbox 2, cost more than the competition, have no compelling online service, and no compelling launch titles (unless you are a fan of giant enemy crabs from real battles in japanese history with weak points you can hit for massive damage).

At this point the Phantom sounds like a better deal than the PS3.

But it'll have Blu-Ray, and it'll do 1080i.

That's what a video game machine needs to succeed

This is starting to sound like the 3DO.

EDIT: According to slashdot, this is all FUD anyway.

starman · Jun 5, 2006, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by goMac

Don't worry, SWG will still buy one. He'll probably will love watching Big Momma's house too.

After all it's not Nintendo.

Look, SWG and I don't agree on a few things, but don't friggin' LIE like that. That just makes you look like that much more of a prick fanboy. He's stated many times he likes Nintendo. YOU on the other hand take criticism as some kind of personal attack and GOD FORBID anyone, no matter how much money they've spent on Nintendo products, should they say anything bad about Nintendo, they must be a Sony fan.

Grow up.