[jokell82]

Originally Posted by goMac 

Please don't act like I'm saying that the PS buttons aren't impossible to memorize, but the Gamecube's controls are a lot easier to work with.

Actually that's very much game-dependent. For games that use a primary button most of the time the Gamecube controller was fantastic. But if you didn't have a primary button in the game, the layout of the GCN controller was very uncomfortable. I.e. try playing a fighting game like Mortal Kombat on the GCN. The buttons are spaced too oddly to be effective.

[sek929]

Similar buttons are easier to memorize than randomly-shaped buttons placed at odd angles.

The GameCube controller will never be good, no matter how you spin it GoMac. If you're old enough to have used A and B on the NES controller I'd say you can learn a new button layout in ten minutes.....maybe less.

The PS2s only downfall was it's small size (and I have small hands) which the 360 Controller perfects quite nicely.

I've never had to look at the buttons more than while playing GC games, Metroid would have been 100X times better with a decent controller.

[Hawkeye_a]

Jokell, i thnk thats what i was trying to get at as well, and so when you have players from either camp trying the other controller they probably wont like it.

Also, non gamers would probably find the GCN controller easier cause of the single primary button than having to deal with 4 different possibilities everytime they pop in a new game. Either way those controllers are for the most part..... old fashioned and will probably be phased out eventually, what with Gates mentioning a wii-esq concept for games at the 'All things digital' conference.

As with the NPD numbers.....i noticed XB360 finally broke the Wii's winning streak...... im guessing its cause Halo3 came out, but the difference is just 27k units (5.3%) more than Wii ? thats a little shocking to say the least...i thought the difference would be closer to 25%-30%...... and it's not like the Wii's numbers are shabby either. The Ps3 on the other hand..... not so much.

[terryshaw09]

you dummies will be argueing forever over this stuff with you bias's

[goMac]

Originally Posted by starman 

Uh, hold on there, snappy.

First off, the "X" on the PS controller is not a "letter", it's a shape. X, CIRCLE, SQUARE, TRIANGLE.

Uh ok? The shapes still don't have any sort of relation to the layout of the buttons.

Originally Posted by starman 

As for the Gamecube controller, didn't that have ACTUAL letters? A, B, Z, X, Y?

Yes, and as I noted before, games showed you what buttons to push based on an actual picture of the button. Spend much time on the Cube? A Cube game never told you to just press the Y button. It actually showed you a little picture of the Y button, which is a lot easier to deal with because the buttons are geometrically arranged.

[PaperNotes]

Thanks for the morning laff. Hope the rest of the day is this fun.

[brightwindows]

I think ps3 is more popular at the present.

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[Dakarʒ]

The Phantom will come to rule all.

[sek929]

Originally Posted by goMac 

which is a lot easier to deal with because the buttons are geometrically arranged.

How on Earth can you consider the A. B, X, and Y buttons 'geometrically arranged??"

As far as I can tell they broke away from the other controllers by NOT being geometrically arranged.

What is your huge bias for the GC? The games were sweet but the controller left MUCH to be desired from just about everyone I knew that played it.

I've never owned any PS systems, but even I can agree the PS2 controller was fantastic....hell, even the N64 controller was better laid out than the friggin GC.

[starman]

Originally Posted by sek929 

How on Earth can you consider the A. B, X, and Y buttons 'geometrically arranged??"

As far as I can tell they broke away from the other controllers by NOT being geometrically arranged.

What is your huge bias for the GC?

Exactamundo. They'll go so far as to talk about a chaotically laid-out button system and call it "geometrically arranged". That's how much of a fanboy these guys are.

[angelmb]

Well, I liked the GC pad, it was really easy to get used to it… A as primary button is bigger than B as secondary button, then you have X and Y just like X axis (horizontal) and Y axis (vertical), I don't know if that reflects gomac's 'geometrically arranged' statement, but makes sense to me.

[Dakarʒ]

Now if only they had aligned y and x with their respective axis' correctly. That's what always used to throw me off.

[jokell82]

Regardless of layout, it was a damn comfortable controller to hold.

[starman]

Nobody's disputing if it was comfortable, just how fanboys will once again support completely illogical claims just to attempt to prove a point.

[angelmb]

Originally Posted by Dakarʒ 

Now if only they had aligned y and x with their respective axis' correctly. That's what always used to throw me off.

Well, doesn't it follows the left handed coordinate system?, maybe it is a cultural thing-issue, but that's how I was taught… Anyway, I came back to this thread to check if people got Endless Ocean (Wii) which seems to be a gem and unexpensive, but the thread is kind of derailed again and again…

[Dakarʒ]

Originally Posted by angelmb 

Well, doesn't it follows the left handed coordinate system?, maybe it is a cultural thing-issue, but that's how I was taught…

Huh?

What I'm saying is y is not at the direct top nor x is at the direct right.

[sek929]

Originally Posted by Dakarʒ 

Huh?

What I'm saying is y is not at the direct top nor x is at the direct right.

AND....if your finger uses the A button mostly why are X and Y so far apart? Fat kid fingers?