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Millennium · Nov 16, 2006, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by Dakar²

I think there's a certain minimum expected for the graphical quality, though.

Yeah, and one game is failing to meet it. So what?

goMac · Nov 16, 2006, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by icruise

Raving Rabids does look very good. It tells us what we can expect from very early Wii games, and overall is a good sign.

For Zelda, my guess is they wanted to keep the Wii/Cube textures the same. Hopefully the next Zelda will feature higher res textures. But, I don't mind.

Hawkeye_a · Nov 16, 2006, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by starman

Did Miyamoto NOT come out and wave the wand around like he's conducting a symphony? How would you play a game like that and NOT MOVE YOUR ARMS? Nobody here has actually answered that question.

Yeah, i see exactly what you mean. So with "sixaxis" your arms are going to be flaling all over the place like that guy from the warhawk demo at E3, in like EVERY game for the PS3...crazy.

Funny how you pick on the Wii for the movement involved, but completely ignore the same problem with every PS3 game.

(sarcasm obviously. since most of us with half a mind know that not every game on the PS3 or Wii will require large sweeping movements. i just find it funny that you always pick on Nintendo, and then claim your not a fanboy).

Hawkeye_a · Nov 16, 2006, 07:30 PM

If the Wii can produce something like this, im more than satisified with it's graphical capabilities. Plus ill be playing it for the most part, on my SD display..so it'll look great.

starman · Nov 17, 2006, 01:37 AM

Originally Posted by Hawkeye_a

Yeah, i see exactly what you mean. So with "sixaxis" your arms are going to be flaling all over the place like that guy from the warhawk demo at E3, in like EVERY game for the PS3...crazy.

Funny how you pick on the Wii for the movement involved, but completely ignore the same problem with every PS3 game.

(sarcasm obviously. since most of us with half a mind know that not every game on the PS3 or Wii will require large sweeping movements. i just find it funny that you always pick on Nintendo, and then claim your not a fanboy).

Uh, no. The SIXAXIS stays in your hands.

Chuckit · Nov 17, 2006, 01:41 AM

Originally Posted by starman

Uh, no. The SIXAXIS stays in your hands.

I don't think you're meant to throw the Wii controller either…

Dark Helmet · Nov 17, 2006, 01:48 AM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

I don't think you're meant to throw the Wii controller either…

You don't mean to but they put a wrist strap on it for a reason. Some reviews have already mentioned that "casual gamers" put remote size holes in the drywall.

Anywho, this poll is rather surprising or not:

"According to poll results from the Weekly Reader Research, American children from ages 5-18 said "they would prefer to have" a PlayStation 3 over all the other systems. Be prepared, these results may shock you:

40% want a PS3
25% want an Xbox 360
22% want a Nintendo Wii
13% would rather have none (we'll call these the bastard children)"

http://www.destructoid.com/research-...ii-27909.phtml

Dark Helmet · Nov 17, 2006, 01:49 AM

Originally Posted by Millennium

Yeah, and one game is failing to meet it. So what?

So what to no online games, so what to DVD player, so what graphics, so what to audio. If Nintendo's next system was a ball with a string attached to it would you say "So what, it is fun, that is all that matters".

P.S. it isn't ONE game, every game is just above cube if not equal to them. Saying "Graphics don't matter" is like saying "She has a nice personality".

- - e r i k - - · Nov 17, 2006, 01:57 AM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

You don't mean to but they put a wrist strap on it for a reason. Some reviews have already mentioned that "casual gamers" put remote size holes in the drywall.

Anywho, this poll is rather surprising or not:

"According to poll results from the Weekly Reader Research, American children from ages 5-18 said "they would prefer to have" a PlayStation 3 over all the other systems. Be prepared, these results may shock you:

40% want a PS3
25% want an Xbox 360
22% want a Nintendo Wii
13% would rather have none (we'll call these the bastard children)"

http://www.destructoid.com/research-...ii-27909.phtml

The power of brand recognition. Shocking!

Chuckit · Nov 17, 2006, 02:00 AM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Anywho, this poll is rather surprising or not:

"According to poll results from the Weekly Reader Research, American children from ages 5-18 said "they would prefer to have" a PlayStation 3 over all the other systems. Be prepared, these results may shock you:

40% want a PS3
25% want an Xbox 360
22% want a Nintendo Wii
13% would rather have none (we'll call these the bastard children)"

I see two factors at work here:

1) Many of these kids already have an Xbox, so of course they don't want one.

2) They're polling ****ing 5-year-olds who have no idea that there isn't a single worthwhile game for the PS3 and just think, "Uh, Playstation is what you play video games with, right?"

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

P.S. it isn't ONE game, every game is just above cube if not equal to them. Saying "Graphics don't matter" is like saying "She has a nice personality".

Suggesting that graphics make or break a game is like saying "OOOH SHINY LIGHTS!" Yeah, graphics matter somewhat, but they are nowhere near the most important thing.

Hawkeye_a · Nov 17, 2006, 02:09 AM

Hmm... funny i thought the PS3 was for the hardcore and Wii was for kids...looks like the PS3 is a kiddie system after all...and an expensive one too.

For interactive computing i get a Mac cause it makes the best use the Mouse and Keyboard.

For ineractive gaming, ill probably get a Wii cause of the...surprise surprise.."interactivity".

For awesome graphics and sound....ill goto the local movie theater and watch the latest Pixar/Dreamworks animated feature. After all, why should i settle for second rate(to motion pictures) graphics on the PS3 ? Besides, i if 3-18 year olds find the PS3 at the top of their list, why on earth would a grown man want one ?..ill get the Wii which is geared for everyone (including me).

goMac · Nov 17, 2006, 02:20 AM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Oh ya you're right, that online play stuff nobody cares about anyway.

On another note, do these graphics seriously not bother you guys? If it looks bad here at 4 inches tall imagine it on a TV.

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/sports/nba07/review.html

Apparently the Wii does not have a monopoly on bad crappy looking games. Shocking!

icruise · Nov 17, 2006, 02:28 AM

Originally Posted by goMac

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/sports/nba07/review.html

Apparently the Wii does not have a monopoly on bad crappy looking games. Shocking!

Ouch!

icruise · Nov 17, 2006, 02:30 AM

1UP gave Zelda a 10 out of 10.

The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess Wii Review, The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess Review

Hawkeye_a · Nov 17, 2006, 02:36 AM

Originally Posted by icruise

1UP gave Zelda a 10 out of 10.

The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess Wii Review, The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess Review

But....but .... it's got crappy gamecube graphics, it doesnt even do 1080i which the PS2 could, and it only does Dolby PL II !!! they must have meant a 0/10 !!!!

icruise · Nov 17, 2006, 03:29 AM

Amazon has shipped my Wii, so I guess I'll see how it is soon enough.

Hawkeye_a · Nov 17, 2006, 03:54 AM

Originally Posted by icruise

Amazon has shipped my Wii, so I guess I'll see how it is soon enough.

sweeet

Gamoe · Nov 17, 2006, 04:36 AM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

"According to poll results from the Weekly Reader Research, American children from ages 5-18 said "they would prefer to have" a PlayStation 3 over all the other systems. Be prepared, these results may shock you:

40% want a PS3
25% want an Xbox 360
22% want a Nintendo Wii
13% would rather have none (we'll call these the bastard children)"

To reiterate:

Poll results gathered from children mean little. Children don't have the emotional or rational maturity to make up their own minds about something like and are more likely to respond to what their friends have or like, than to respond according to their own analysis.

Also, if I had a kid old enough to play video games and I were getting a new system, it'd be a Wii, not an XBox or a PS3, based on Nintendo's slightly more kid-friendly philosophy and cost, regardless if my kid "wants" another system instead. And he better be happy with that or he's just not getting anything.

Anyway, I say screw polls. There are a lot of factors involved here, including developer commitment, availability of console systems, cost, reliability (in the case of the Wii remote/sensor bar and other consoles' potential issues) and game variety. We'll see the real voting begin when all the systems are available to the general public, and we'll see the results a few years from now.

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

So what to no online games, so what to DVD player, so what graphics, so what to audio. If Nintendo's next system was a ball with a string attached to it would you say "So what, it is fun, that is all that matters".

P.S. it isn't ONE game, every game is just above cube if not equal to them. Saying "Graphics don't matter" is like saying "She has a nice personality".

I think this has been a pretty fair and reasonable discussion so far, with a variety of opinions, viewpoints and concerns, even from the enthusiastic. But if nothing of the Wii entices you at all, then obviously it's really not for you and no amount of discussion will change that.

Millennium · Nov 17, 2006, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

So what to no online games, so what to DVD player, so what graphics, so what to audio. If Nintendo's next system was a ball with a string attached to it would you say "So what, it is fun, that is all that matters".

Fun is all that matters. These are games we're talking about, after all.

Online play has still only proven itself in two genres, both of which the PC will continue to monopolize for a long time: FPS and MMORPG. DVD is fluff, the graphics are perfectly decent (that one Ubisoft racing game notwithstanding), and the audio is just fine.

P.S. it isn't ONE game, every game is just above cube if not equal to them.

Exaggeration doesn't become you. It is one game.

Saying "Graphics don't matter" is like saying "She has a nice personality".

Which, to someone interested in more than a shallow relationship, is what really matters. I fail to see what's so bad about your metaphor.

starman · Nov 17, 2006, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by Millennium

Online play has still only proven itself in two genres, both of which the PC will continue to monopolize for a long time: FPS and MMORPG.

You forgot sports. Sports DOMINATES online play on consoles.

Dakar² · Nov 17, 2006, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by Millennium

Yeah, and one game is failing to meet it. So what?

Not my point. Just sayin' 'graphics don't matter' isn't completely true.

Dakar² · Nov 17, 2006, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by starman

You forgot sports. Sports DOMINATES online play on consoles.

Racing, too, if you consider that a separate genre.

starman · Nov 17, 2006, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by Dakar²

Racing, too, if you consider that a separate genre.

Dakar always speaks datruth.

Kerrigan · Nov 17, 2006, 09:42 AM

Nintendo fanboys have what we Freudboys would call regressive fantasies, or death-wishes. Grow up, live in the present, and enjoy the PS3 like a normal adult.

Millennium · Nov 17, 2006, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by Kerrigan

Nintendo fanboys have what we Freudboys would call regressive fantasies, or death-wishes. Grow up, live in the present, and enjoy the PS3 like a normal adult.

If the people waiting in line for the PS3 are normal adults, then count me among the proud regressives.

Jawbone54 · Nov 17, 2006, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by Kerrigan

Nintendo fanboys have what we Freudboys would call regressive fantasies, or death-wishes. Grow up, live in the present, and enjoy the PS3 like a normal adult.

Cute.

Dakar² · Nov 17, 2006, 09:56 AM

I heard Nintendo's next peripheral is a breast-like adaptor that lets fanboys do virtual breast-feedings </hater>

Kerrigan · Nov 17, 2006, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by Jawbone54

Cute.

Cute? As in, the adorable childlike appearance that one wishes one had when playing with the wii?

I'm sorry but Nintendo and its fans are rife with regressive speculation.

Dakar² · Nov 17, 2006, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by Kerrigan

regressive speculation.

Damn, I can't even Google that.

goMac · Nov 17, 2006, 10:21 AM

Tonight I plan on calling a few stores to see when their Wii launch is. I know that Target is Sunday morning, but no idea on the others.

Wish me luck on getting one launch day.

I'm hoping it's easy, but with the PS3 launch lines, you never know.

angelmb · Nov 17, 2006, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by icruise

1UP gave Zelda a 10 out of 10.

The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess Wii Review, The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess Review

If Wii Sports is a game for everyone, Twilight Princess is for everyone who loves games.

That is nice.

Jawbone54 · Nov 17, 2006, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by goMac

Tonight I plan on calling a few stores to see when their Wii launch is. I know that Target is Sunday morning, but no idea on the others.

Wish me luck on getting one launch day.

I'm hoping it's easy, but with the PS3 launch lines, you never know.

Good luck. Let us know how it is.

goMac · Nov 17, 2006, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by Jawbone54

Good luck. Let us know how it is.

I plan on getting a Wii, Zelda, Raving Rabids, Extra controller + Nunchuck. Although I'm worried the store will run out of one of those things.

Jawbone54 · Nov 17, 2006, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by goMac

I plan on getting a Wii, Zelda, Raving Rabids, Extra controller + Nunchuck. Although I'm worried the store will run out of one of those things.

What about a classic controller? Not planning on using Virtual Console?

smacintush · Nov 17, 2006, 12:23 PM

I'll be getting a Wii but a week late. My wife runs the electronic dept. at a dept. store so we'll get a 15% discount too. I'll prolly get Zelda but that's it.

goMac · Nov 17, 2006, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by Jawbone54

What about a classic controller? Not planning on using Virtual Console?

I have a decked out Gamecube, and as far as I was aware those controllers work. Only problem is I gave my Gamecube to my girlfriend, so yeah, I suppose I'll need to pick up a classic controller.

Kinda disappointing, 4 player Mario Kart would be fun.

Jawbone54 · Nov 17, 2006, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by smacintush

I'll be getting a Wii but a week late. My wife runs the electronic dept. at a dept. store so we'll get a 15% discount too. I'll prolly get Zelda but that's it.

Lucky bum. $212.55

Dakar² · Nov 17, 2006, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by goMac

Kinda disappointing, 4 player Mario Kart would be fun.

Super or 64?

It'd be hot if they modified old SNES games to work with 4 people instead.

Jawbone54 · Nov 17, 2006, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by goMac

...4 player Mario Kart would be fun.

I love the DS version. So far, I think it's the best.

goMac · Nov 17, 2006, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by Dakar²

Super or 64?

It'd be hot if they modified old SNES games to work with 4 people instead.

64.

Dakar² · Nov 17, 2006, 12:48 PM

Meh.

goMac · Nov 17, 2006, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by Jawbone54

I love the DS version. So far, I think it's the best.

The DS version is ok. I just wish they had more N64 tracks.

Millennium · Nov 17, 2006, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by Dakar²

I heard Nintendo's next peripheral is a breast-like adaptor that lets fanboys do virtual breast-feedings </hater>

The 360 will get that long before anything by Nintendo, if the Dead or Alive series is any indication.

Dakar² · Nov 17, 2006, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by Millennium

The 360 will get that long before anything by Nintendo, if the Dead or Alive series is any indication.

Oh nice.

(I can't wait till that stinkbomb of a movie comes out)

ink · Nov 17, 2006, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by Dakar²

I can't wait till that stinkbomb of a movie comes out

Oh, please no.

It's like Resident Evil, which was a movie based on a video game, based on a movie -- but without the ne sais quoi aspect of Jill...

Mmmm, Jill. Dogs. Zombies.

Dark Helmet · Nov 17, 2006, 06:39 PM

This is pretty funny.

Headline on Digg: digg - Awesome accessories coming for Wii this winter !

Headline on another news site: Joytech to put cheap plastic crap on your Wii remote - Joystiq

zerostar · Nov 17, 2006, 06:43 PM

The wheel is decent but the club looks like a friggin' joke.

Dark Helmet · Nov 17, 2006, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by zerostar

The wheel is decent but the club looks like a friggin' joke.

The wheel is stupid, you get so sort of feedback and you can move it around in free space which is anything but realistic.

You want real steering you get one of those wheels with force feedback and petals they have been selling for 20 years.

Dark Helmet · Nov 17, 2006, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by Hawkeye_a

But....but .... it's got crappy gamecube graphics, it doesnt even do 1080i which the PS2 could, and it only does Dolby PL II !!! they must have meant a 0/10 !!!!

Gears of war got 10/10 and it has only pretty graphics and isn't 100 hours but more like 10 hours. They must have meant 0/10!!!!

goMac · Nov 17, 2006, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Gears of war got 10/10 and it has only pretty graphics and isn't 100 hours but more like 10 hours. They must have meant 0/10!!!!

Or maybe the gameplay was good too.