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CyberGreg · Nov 15, 2000, 07:54 PM

Has anyone been able to use ShrinkWrap with the Starcraft or Broodwar CD?

I have used ShrinkWrap with Alpha Centauri and some other games.

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mac freak · Nov 15, 2000, 10:43 PM

Starcraft is protected against that, as odds are you got that image from Hotline or Carracho...

The only games it works with are quick-and-dirty ports like Alpha Centauri whose market was perceived to be so small that security didn't seem necessary. This is not the case with games like StarCraft, Diablo II, Quake III, Unreal Tournament, etc. (i.e. the popular games).

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CyberGreg · Nov 16, 2000, 06:27 AM

EXCUSE ME!

I happen to have purchased the game and have the original CD in hand!

My iBook gets very hot while playing the game and having it run from a hard drive image would help the problem.

Mac Freak, you've got big b*lls suggesting that I "got that image from Hotline or Carracho..."

Thanks for the help (or lack there of)!

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mac freak · Nov 16, 2000, 03:36 PM

Sorry if I offended you...

You should have stated the circumstances in your original post so that jacka**es like me don't jump to conclusions.

Anyway, as I said, this simply does not work with StarCraft due to security measures.

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Nov 16, 2000, 03:50 PM

as for your assertion that shrinkwrap doesn't work with the 'popular' games....wrong too! guess that would make you...what....0 for 2?

quake 3 doesn't even need CD protection, as it has its own serial number validation scheme, but playing on a local network or in a botmatch, you don't need the CD or the key.

unreal tournament...shrinkwrap works. sorry!

can't say about those other ones, but i don't particularly care either. rampant piracy blows ass.

mac freak · Nov 16, 2000, 07:27 PM

Man, I wish I could see logged IP addresses to find out whether that was CyberGreg...

And HEY, I'm SORRY...

You seem to have a lot of experience, o' unregistered user, with playing games from shrinkwrap images! I based all I said before on what I have read and been told; you seem to have first-hand experience, and I regret it if my ignorance has somehow insulted you. My purpose here in the fora is not to anger people, but to help people with dillemmas and participate in thoughtful discussion.

And rampant insults will not accomplish anything either. It was just my experience that anyone who found the need to use shrinkwrap to play a game had no CD, no burner, but only an image. I wasn't aware that he had a practical reason (that his iBook became overheated). Had I know this, my first response would have been different.

Let's not continue this pointless argument. No one likes them, and all they do is turn members into enemies.

I'll stop replying to this thread now... bye...

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CyberGreg · Nov 16, 2000, 08:07 PM

Mac Freak,

All is good in the universe....

Peace...

I just wish I could play Starcraft without my iBook getting like 200�.

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Nov 16, 2000, 08:55 PM

Originally posted by mac freak:
The only games it works with are quick-and-dirty ports like Alpha Centauri whose market was perceived to be so small that security didn't seem necessary.

Quick-and-dirty? Small market? What are you basing those claims on? Furthermore, your information on which "popular" games the technique does not work on is incorrect.

As the developer of the Mac version of Alpha Centauri, I can't help but be a little put off by this.

Brad

mac freak · Nov 16, 2000, 09:47 PM

Ahhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!

I feel like such a VICTIM!

I wish you people could just leave me alone...

Nov 16, 2000, 09:52 PM

chill, dude...life's too short. i've posted rants before on people taking stuff too seriously, and i'm not afraid to do it again =) i dinnae mean to insult your family...have a nice day.

p.s relax, i'm not cybergreg. there is no conspiracy against you =P

CyberGreg · Nov 17, 2000, 05:35 AM

Brad... dude!

If your comment is for real... SMAC and Alien Crossfire are AWESOME! games!

My wife and I love playing network games.

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jamesa · Nov 17, 2000, 05:44 AM

I've seen hacks floating around Hotline/Carracho to do stuff like that, so you don't need the CD. I find them useful on my Powerbook, so I can use two batteries and no CD drive (saves power, and two batts better than one).

Hey, and if you want to see more cool games come to the mac... make sure you buy the game first (of course, everybody here does, but just in case...

[This message has been edited by jamesa (edited 11-17-2000).]

paulc · Nov 18, 2000, 12:14 PM

Doods, there are a number of good reasons to use disk images for CDs. First, I own just about every game that can be purchased for a Mac. And I can send you pictures of the hundreds of boxes that I have stashed away in my downstairs storage!

For me, reason #1 is performance. I only have a 2x CD drive, so using a disk image (on a very fast LVD/Cheetah array) makes loads from the CD FAR faster than the drive. Second, convenience. I gots TONS of CDs lying around. It daunts my gaming urges to have to dig through them all to find the right one. Addition to that is I have a utility (OneClick) that has a user contributed mod (TabLaunch) that will launch the disk image first, then launch the app. One click and I'm rolling.

Now I've only run into ONE game where this doesn't work. Diablo II.