[--Helen--]

When are Oni and Red Faction shipping for Mac OS 10. Oni is playable, but needs an update. Anyone know know anything?

[Leonard]

From what I've seen, Red Faction was supposed to have shipped this month (my Mac retailer had a sign up with a date of Oct 16), but it seems to have been delayed to November.

[--Helen--]

Guessing from Apple's page Red Faction should ship in November.

I truly love OS 10.1. It has some quirks, and still needs another speedup at the quartz level. Otherwise it works fairly well. On my B/W 450 at home I don't even have classic installed, so I really would like to see more updates.

I would love to see an updated version of Greendragon's Gridz game. Gridz is one of rare games that made the Mac cool.

To me, Oni always seemed to be a couple of levels short of being a truly great game. It always played very well under 9.1. It was neat to be kicking, punching and especially flipping. Oni would do very well to have an add-on pack with many new levels and 10.1 compatibility.

I would also like updates for DS9 The Fallen and Quake II.

Considering how well Alice runs under 10.1. And wow! it really does run very very well. I think having updates for old games would be really cool. I've been using Macs for over ten years. I was one of the ones who waited years for OS 10. I don't ever want to go back.

[SteveJobs]

Red Faction's release date was pushed back, because they have some trouble with the OS X version, but the OS 9 vesion is done. As it looks now, it will ship in November.

Oni is in the works at the OmniGroup, if we have some luck, Rick Roe or TimWood or the other tim can explain us why...

Steve