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We want games for not so old Macs
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Dec 5, 2000, 05:25 PM
 
This week, 2 new demo games were released : Driver and Water Race. The first one in not playable on my iMac rev.B with 64 MB RAM. I tried with 128MB virtual memory as suggested in the Read me message and it does not work, either error 3 or frozen introduction screen. On the other hand, Water Race is perfectly playable on my (now old) equipment. Then i say "hurray for the French people" who thought that gamers are not always equipped but the soon to come equipment and with 128 MB RAM available for the game only.A 3D game should be playable with some display limits with any equipment that was released 2 years ago as it is the core of their buyers and not only with the latest (future) equipment.
Remember, 3 years ago, when Duke Nukem was released, it could be played with 68K or PowerPC processors. I am sure that gamers would be pleased to buy games that could be suited to their equipment even if some display niceties were to be sacrificed. It is possible. The French Touch team proved it. So if you want to sell your games, act this way not like Gathering of Developpers and others that released fine games like Fly or 4x4 that need enormous amounts of RAM and pro-oriented machines and graphic cards. Next year, you will have to steal the future G 5 with 1 GB RAM from Cupertino to play on your Mac.

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Dec 5, 2000, 05:38 PM
 
You raise some good points, but remember that Macs are not what games are aimed at. A PC that's as old as your mac would have a better video card, faster CPU, and more RAM, so you probably could play just about any game. And with this PC, if it doesn't play a game well, you can just buy a video card for it and squeeze a few more years out of it. Jobs would rather you bought a new computer instead of a new video card, so he rigs iMacs to be totally disposable. (hehe, looks like users are buying another computer after their iMacs are obsolete, except the new one is a PC!). Fortunately, there are more video cards in development for Macs, but unless you have a powermac forget using them.

Also, most games are highly configurable for exactly the reasons you stated. Take UT for instance, there are more video and detail settings than you can shake a stick at--allowing users to strike a balance between visual impact and speed on practically any system.

Anyways, with your iMac, you could try slipping in some more RAM...RAM is relatively cheap now, it would be a good time to buy. 64MB really isn't enough for most of today's apps (contrary to what Apple would like you to think).
     
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Dec 10, 2000, 12:43 AM
 
Yeah, get more RAM (<$100 for 128 mgs) that will solve most of your problems. . .too bad iMacs suck. I don't know what Jobs was thinking when he designed the frickin' thing. My advice: get a G4 tower.
     
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Dec 10, 2000, 11:41 AM
 
F*ck you asswipe. Mine runs pretty damn good, getting only 8 fps less than a G4 with Rage 128 in Q3 and UT.

Man, what a dick.

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Dec 10, 2000, 05:48 PM
 
Jobs "was thinking" of making an easy to use computer that could connect people to the internet and turn Apple around.

He did that, iMacs aren't meant for hardcore gamers, they're meant for beginning users. That doesn't mean they can't be used by gamers, but it takes some hacking.

Everybody knows you didn't get those fps out of the box Ca$h

You've upgraded almost everything you could.


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Dec 10, 2000, 06:51 PM
 
So? I still wouldnt say iMacs suck. I would say they suck at GAMES, but not suck. That's just a dumb thing to say.

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Dec 10, 2000, 11:03 PM
 
I agree.


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