thanks for the input chaps
i got the updates
but they cause problems of their own with the servers i could connect to previously
now why is ut so much easier to update? and why is the inability to connect to a ut server more usefully noted " servers version outdated"
quake looks nice but hey its too hard and demanding on my vid card ..... gosh i need a new one
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