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toshio · Mar 27, 2002, 11:19 PM

test this patch tonight~
so poor fps i get
only 9-15 skip 14-20
use powerbook g4/400 512ram
why?
in os9 is mach better
usually get 20-45fps skip 7-12
it's like unfinish version

GlobalNomad · Mar 28, 2002, 12:20 AM

How are you able to tell the FPS, I'm installing D2 now.

I hope I have better luck

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Tominator · Mar 28, 2002, 01:36 AM

Originally posted by GlobalNomad:
How are you able to tell the FPS, I'm installing D2 now.

I hope I have better luck

.

When you're in the game, just type "fps" in the chat input box.

cheerios · Mar 28, 2002, 01:41 AM

I'm SOOO disappointed

I have a new iMac, GeForce 2MX, 700Mhz G4, and I'm getting 5-20 fps and 5-12 skips. What're skips btw?? I hope there's a fix for this... I really want to play diablo again

juanvaldes · Mar 28, 2002, 03:30 AM

Runs fairly well on my 450 DP w/Rage 128 Pro. 15-40 fps. But I hit a bug, I just rescued The elder (act 1, quest 3) and right after I talked to him the game froze. ssh'ed into my box to find that Diablo 2 did not have a PID thus nothing to kill.

Restarted window server (which worked fine) but my monitor was still stuck with D2.

a2daj · Mar 28, 2002, 03:31 AM

I've been doing some testing on my system with a Radeon and game play is great. OS X OpenGL is as fast as OS 9. My brother has a GeForce2MX. His OS X OpenGL performance sucks butt. It's probably a driver issue again. Blame NVIDIA.

Oh, BTW, when testing your framerates, use a multiplayer game. Singleplayer games are capped at 25 fps.

And I noticed a major performance hit with my Radeon system and my PowerBook G3. In Act V, head through the front gate. On my ATI systems, my performance drops. If my character stands directly in the gateway, my framerates drop into single digits, sometimes 0 and the game almost freezes up (it eventually unfreezes). Another slow spot is in the same town, but all the way to the left inside the town. If I stand next to the wall so that I have a bunch of dead trees on mine screen, my framerates drop.
If I stay in the areas where there are bad framerates, my textures eventually get all screwed up. I'll be sending in a bug report soon...

Other than the slowdown in Act V, I don't have many complaints. Throughout the rest of the maps I tested, I rarely dropped below the 'smooth game' limit of 25 fps. Much of the time was in the 70-80 range, sometimes in the 120-140 range.

BTW, my system with the Radeon is a G4 867.

[ 03-28-2002: Message edited by: a2daj ]

Mar 28, 2002, 06:04 AM

Yeah...performance isn't quite on par with the OS 9 version in terms of framerate...buuuuut, the OS 9 version crashed incessantly on my Dual-800. The OS X version doesn't crash (or hasn't yet) and has load times that are almost twice as fast. OS X Diablo 2 is the W1NN4R!!!!!

kodiakbr · Mar 28, 2002, 06:48 AM

Is anyone having a problem with using an existing character in Diablo 2. I can't continue a game, but I can create a new character and play. I checked on the permissions of the new character and I discovered that all of the files in the Saves folder for it were Read, Write, Execute for me and then read only for everyone else.

I was just anxious to test out my character this morning before going to work. I am happy to see that it's available though.

Thanks. : D

Osirisis · Mar 28, 2002, 07:35 AM

Originally posted by <Guy Incognito>:
Yeah...performance isn't quite on par with the OS 9 version in terms of framerate...buuuuut, the OS 9 version crashed incessantly on my Dual-800. The OS X version doesn't crash (or hasn't yet) and has load times that are almost twice as fast. OS X Diablo 2 is the W1NN4R!!!!!

I actually managed to crash mine twice, but I can say that the system never froze up, which is better than when the 9 version goes down hard and I have to reboot. I had it quit itself the first time I tried to go in at the checking version screen, but was not able to repeat the issue. It went down again when trying to create a game. I'll be doing more thorough testing tonight when I get home. Here Mephy, mephy, give me some stuff

Guy Incognito · Mar 28, 2002, 08:08 AM

Originally posted by Osirisis:


I actually managed to crash mine twice, but I can say that the system never froze up, which is better than when the 9 version goes down hard and I have to reboot. I had it quit itself the first time I tried to go in at the checking version screen, but was not able to repeat the issue. It went down again when trying to create a game. I'll be doing more thorough testing tonight when I get home. Here Mephy, mephy, give me some stuff

One thing I did notice was that sometimes when I exit a game, I get booted from b.net back to the logon screen. This happened in OS 9 and has never happened on any PCs I've played D2 on. It also sometimes gets stuck at 'Checking version...'...at that point I have to hit the 'Cancel' button to go back to the main screen and relog on to b.net.

I'm happy to say that connection speeds (from logon to character screen...from character screen to chat screen) are extremely fast now...so is the loading time.

If those little skips/pauses can be eliminated from the game, I'll be one happy mofo.

I'm gonna have to play some more tonight and see if D2 crashes. I played for about an hour and a half yesterday and had no crashes (as opposed to getting a crashed every 15 minutes with D2 on OS 9). So D2 for OS X is already better in that respect. And I imagine that if D2 did crash...I could just relaunch it right away instead of rebooting the 'puter.

fulmer · Mar 30, 2002, 03:47 PM

at least you're not alone cheerios--the framerate and play suck on my imac 800/256 RAM as well. this is the os 9 version. maybe in the os x version you can turn the colors to thousands and use a lesser resolution.

iKevin · Mar 30, 2002, 04:29 PM

I have a 733 QuickSilver w/Geforce2 mx....it's laggy as heck on my system. But the larger problem is that my mouse tracking is fubar'd in the game....Move my mouse slightly to the right and it periodically jumps to the edge of the screen in the direction I move it

Anybody else have this mouse problem?

iSoldier · Mar 30, 2002, 07:27 PM

Diablo 2 with LOD plays fairly well on my first generation Tibook. No complaints what so ever. The frame rates seem to be a little better than in 9x. Loading times are considerably faster. Sound doesn't cut out anymore while loading. My characters strengths and resistances have change somewhat, i think. Is it me or am I imagining this? Any way other than things playing a little weird (read last sentence) things a dandy doodle. It is great seeing the game in the dock. Hail to the King: OS X!

Archangel · Mar 30, 2002, 08:47 PM

Originally posted by iSoldier:
My characters strengths and resistances have change somewhat, i think. Is it me or am I imagining this? Any way other than things playing a little weird (read last sentence) things a dandy doodle. It is great seeing the game in the dock. Hail to the King: OS X!

This may be due to the patch changes besides the carbonization. I'd imagine that if you weren't up to date with the latest version then you may very well have had your character stats tinkered w/ by the patch. Either that or you are imagining it.

And yes, it's good to see it in the dock.

juanvaldes · Mar 30, 2002, 10:03 PM

Originally posted by juanvaldes:
Runs fairly well on my 450 DP w/Rage 128 Pro. 15-40 fps. But I hit a bug, I just rescued The elder (act 1, quest 3) and right after I talked to him the game froze. ssh'ed into my box to find that Diablo 2 did not have a PID thus nothing to kill.

Restarted window server (which worked fine) but my monitor was still stuck with D2.

Happened again, but this time when I was just running around in the Marsh.

juanvaldes · Mar 31, 2002, 01:08 AM

Okay, my bug is contained to running in Full Screen mode. Too bad running it in a window runs like crap

everyone don't forget to let blizzard (and NVidia

) that there are bugs and we want it to be fixed.

[ 03-31-2002: Message edited by: juanvaldes ]

bOOzo · Apr 1, 2002, 08:33 AM

Just a tip:
Some of you might accidently have downloaded the original Diablo II instead of the expansion app. It will work fine with the expansionset until you try to play with assassin or druid, then it will give you an "out of memory" error. Just download the expansion app instead (the only visible differenece between them is that the expansion version has the baal icon istead of diablo).

I too get bad performance using OpenGL on my 733 QS G4, but that's probably due to bad drivers. Works good with software rendering.

nigeljedi · Apr 2, 2002, 11:14 AM

I was really stoked to be able to play DII in OS X, but ran into a fatal flaw (for DII to be usable) on my G4 iMac 800mhz. The game fires up perfectly, but no matter which graphics settings I use, I can't get the cursor to stop "skipping". All goes well if I'm just walking around, but as soon as I try to focus the cursor on an enemy, shrine, etc., my cursor hangs for a split second, then jumps to the edge of the screen. I can't accurately click on anything... Bummer.

maxbehr · Apr 2, 2002, 07:32 PM

Framerate blows for me on a dual Gig. Though that is annoying, my other problem practically brought me to tears

After playing for a while last nite (5 hrs, but who's counting) I went to save my game and exit. It appeard to have saved. Fired up diablo and my character was still at the point he was 4 hours previously�Anyone else run into this?

cuomo411 · Apr 3, 2002, 04:46 PM

nigeljedi,

i was having the exact same problem with my imac g4 800 MHz. I disabled opengl in the videocard settings at startup, and now the game is running like a dream.

nigeljedi · Apr 4, 2002, 10:57 AM

I'll try that! I just saw the opportunity to use the full power of the new iMac, and didn't think of using the "software" mode at the startup...

a2daj · Apr 4, 2002, 02:28 PM

I know most of you would rather use the OS X version of Diablo II, but since Apple released new OS 9 NVIDIA drivers, has any NVIDIA owner tried giving Diablo II a whirl in OS 9 with both RAVE and OpenGL? I have a Radeon 8500 so I can't test it.
No need for the 'why bother, OS 9 is dead' comments. I'm sure most people would want some feedback about the game performance, not 30 posts about why people don't want to test the drivers. If the OS 9 NVIDIA 3.0 drivers DO fix Diablo II issues, maybe those same fixes can get rolled into the OS X drivers... But no one will know unless someone tries.

Osirisis · Apr 4, 2002, 02:58 PM

Originally posted by a2daj:
I know most of you would rather use the OS X version of Diablo II, but since Apple released new OS 9 NVIDIA drivers, has any NVIDIA owner tried giving Diablo II a whirl in OS 9 with both RAVE and OpenGL? I have a Radeon 8500 so I can't test it.
No need for the 'why bother, OS 9 is dead' comments. I'm sure most people would want some feedback about the game performance, not 30 posts about why people don't want to test the drivers. If the OS 9 NVIDIA 3.0 drivers DO fix Diablo II issues, maybe those same fixes can get rolled into the OS X drivers... But no one will know unless someone tries.

My Girlfriend just tried and the slowdown was still there. Then again that could be lag at BNet

mftalon · Apr 5, 2002, 09:19 PM

a2daj,

I noticed you have a Radeon 8500. Have you been able to play Diablo II in OSX?

I just received and installed my Radeon. Whenever I try the OSX version of Diablo it crashes after I take a few steps. It locks the machine up so tight I can't even ssh into it to kill the process.

I'm running 10.1.3 with a G4-450, 512MB ram, and a brand spankin new Radeon 8500.

a2daj · Apr 6, 2002, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by mftalon:
a2daj,

I noticed you have a Radeon 8500. Have you been able to play Diablo II in OSX?

I just received and installed my Radeon. Whenever I try the OSX version of Diablo it crashes after I take a few steps. It locks the machine up so tight I can't even ssh into it to kill the process.

I'm running 10.1.3 with a G4-450, 512MB ram, and a brand spankin new Radeon 8500.

I've been able to play it without any crashing. I can't think of any reason why it would crash on your setup.
Do you play Normal D2 or LoD? Did you download the correct OS X patch for the version you have?

nigeljedi · Apr 10, 2002, 01:29 PM

Well, the pointer thing is fixed, but I ran into an interesting problem a minute ago. I was in the middle of playing, and pressed esc to pause it to talk on the phone. After just a few minutes, DII quit out to the main screen by itself. I lost all that I had done in that session...

CreamKoRn · Apr 20, 2002, 12:48 PM

I am a big DII fan. I have been playing since before LOD during patch 1.02 is when i started to play. I usually play online but the game has become to much for people who dupe. Sorry about the flash back i run DII on a Ibook i just turned the graphics down to the mininum settings and it runs fine for me.

kardinal.cmg · Apr 24, 2002, 06:18 PM

I'm a bit amazed at those problems...

I've just played DII for the first time in X yesterday, and it kicks butt. It loads up in next to notime (especially compared to the load time in OS9), loads saved games in less than 15sec (more like a minute in 9) and is generally much faster and smoother.

msykes · Apr 25, 2002, 06:17 PM

Hmmm, I'd highly recommend anyone with any issues giving software mode at least a try. I have a 333MHz powerbook 320 MB RAM), recently got DII: LoD since I am an OSX only machine was waiting for the patch. I usually get around 15 fps, game is surprisingly playable on my setup.

Granted I'm only up to Level 9 so far, and it hasn't gotten super-hectic with monsters, but most everyone here seems to have quite a bit more powerful machines and should hopefully get better results!

Multiplayer by the way...

davechen · Apr 26, 2002, 08:11 AM

Originally posted by msykes:
Hmmm, I'd highly recommend anyone with any issues giving software mode at least a try. I have a 333MHz powerbook 320 MB RAM), recently got DII: LoD since I am an OSX only machine was waiting for the patch. I usually get around 15 fps, game is surprisingly playable on my setup.

Yeah, software mode is definitely the way to go. I get 25-40 fps on my 500 mhz TiBook, and it loads levels much faster too.

I'm up to lvl 78 in hardcore

Apr 26, 2002, 11:37 AM

Originally posted by msykes:
Hmmm, I'd highly recommend anyone with any issues giving software mode at least a try. I have a 333MHz powerbook 320 MB RAM), recently got DII: LoD since I am an OSX only machine was waiting for the patch. I usually get around 15 fps, game is surprisingly playable on my setup.

Granted I'm only up to Level 9 so far, and it hasn't gotten super-hectic with monsters, but most everyone here seems to have quite a bit more powerful machines and should hopefully get better results!

Multiplayer by the way...

But software mode sucks pretty bad when you're trying to figure out if a rare or unique just dropped.

fulmer · Apr 26, 2002, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by <Guy Incognito>:


But software mode sucks pretty bad when you're trying to figure out if a rare or unique just dropped.

how so?

mmurray · Apr 26, 2002, 11:02 PM

I opened an OS9 (1.01 version) character in OSX and then tried to reopen it in OS9 and it isn't visible.

Does anyone know what causes this ? Is this just because
I am going back from 1.09 to 1.01 ?

Michael

kardinal.cmg · Apr 27, 2002, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by mmurray:
I opened an OS9 (1.01 version) character in OSX and then tried to reopen it in OS9 and it isn't visible.

Does anyone know what causes this ? Is this just because
I am going back from 1.09 to 1.01 ?

Michael

I wouldn't be surprised if that was the cause. Updates frequently change the game and stats of items, bring new ones etc., so a character saved in a newer version might mess up a bit if it was opened in an older one. Try updating the OS9 version to 1.09 as well, and it should work normally.