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Q3A Texture quality
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Dec 9, 2000, 10:28 AM
 
Morning,

Just wondering if the textures in Quake kill your framerates as bad as they do on my machine (Radeon, but only 64 Mb ram). Can you tell I'm trying to justify a RAM purchase. Also, I saw others talking about 3-2-2 v. 2-2-2 ram in these forums - how can I specify 2-2-2 (the better??) ram? Would it matter on a cube, which presumably has 64 mb of 3-2-2 already?

FYI - an apology is in order - the framerates I posted elsewhere were all options to full EXCEPT for texture detail (slider with four settings). Didn't notice that slider until after the testing.

Sting

Shyte, do they kill the speed...
     
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Dec 9, 2000, 12:46 PM
 
ram is proably your problem, i have at least 100mb ram to quake 3, what i would do is jsut ditvh the 64mb ram and get a new 256 pc100 222 ram, or if u cant afford that 128mb should be fine
     
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Dec 9, 2000, 02:09 PM
 
The reason your haivng frame rate probs is solely down to your lack of main system ram.
You need 192 MB for playing new games adequatly (Rune requires 185MB to run!), with idealy 256, you can get away with 128-160 but I'd go for at least 192MB.
Then with your Radeon, your games will rock!
     
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Dec 9, 2000, 03:13 PM
 
The slower (3-2-2) RAM is only about 5% slower than the faster (2-2-2) kind for memory access.

RAM is as slow as the slowest chip. Even if you get 256 megabytes of 2-2-2 RAM, you will still be limited by whatever speed RAM came in your Power Mac G4 Cube.
     
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Dec 9, 2000, 04:42 PM
 
Thanks, that makes it a lot easier to do...

Just to be specific, playing on the first or second texture levels is okay, but after that my cube metamorphoses into a giant DOG.

Still a system ram issue? I don't hear the HD being accessed for VM...

Sting
     
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Dec 9, 2000, 11:02 PM
 
If you've only got 64MB of system Ram then thats your prob; period.
     
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Dec 11, 2000, 08:56 PM
 
Q3A has an advanced rendering engine. Get yourself some RAM, and it will totally rock. Make sure you have the latest version of Open GL (probably do if you have a Radeon), and get at least another 128MB RAM. Your system will totally rock.
     
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Dec 12, 2000, 12:13 AM
 
Thanks for all the replies! I'm posting it in the games forum, but has anyone tried Q3F? (fortress)

I'm gonna have to buy the full retail version, on top of 128 Mb. Gak!!!

Sting
     
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Dec 13, 2000, 02:03 AM
 
Well, adding more RAM will make your entire Mac seem faster - not just Quake3. Also, most of the recent games are real hogs when it comes to RAM. Quake3 is quite efficient by contrast. If you're into games or graphics in a big way, I'd try for a 256MB DIMM rather than 128MB if it's withing your budget......joe
     
   
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