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Star Wars Pod Racer + Saitek Cyborg 3D joystick
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Dec 27, 2000, 07:00 PM
 
This may be a peripherals or a games question...

I just got an iMac SE 400 and Star Wars Pod Racer for my kid for Xmas.
Based on recomendations from this board I also got the Saitek Cyborg 3D
USB joystick.

The problem is that the joystick is obviously a PC thing with Macs as
an after-after-after-after-thought. They repeatedly tell you that it
will not work properly without their drivers being installled. But
their drivers CD contains a bunch of individual PC files with no
Install application and no easily recognizable Mac driver type of file
anywhere.

Finally I found at the bottom of the box a little green paper which
says "Mac owners, to set up the Cyborg 3D, start your game and go to
the Input Calibration menu of your game." Well, Pod Racer has an Input
setting menu but no joystick "calibration" that I can find anywhere. As
a result, the thing works sometimes but often tends to pull in one
direction or another. Another problem is that oftentimes when going
through the "Choose your player screen" if you click on one of the blue
glowing arrows to go to the next choice, nothing will happen and you
can't shoose another player or another track.

Is there a magic driver that will make this joystick bring joy to my 9
year old Pod Racer (bummed) fan?

Tech stuff: I have just done the 9.0.4 upgrade through the Apple site
so I imagine I have the latest Inputsprockets and all (although I did
not check specifically). Everything in the machine is basically stock,
except that I have also installed the Logitech driver for the Logitech
wheel mouse.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

P.S. It also seems that the USB connector is very hard to insert in the
keyboard USB receptacle...
     
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Dec 28, 2000, 01:04 PM
 
Here is an update in case others are facing the same problem, plus a new question:

1) Symptoms: After Calibrating it through Bugdom, it would go through about half a lap in Pod Racer with direction control working but at constant, uncontrollable speed (normally speed is to be controlled as an on/off thing by the joystick trigger). Then it would loose its right side direction and be pulling completely to the left, eventually just running around in circles by itself. After hitting a whole bunch of keys and mouse clicks I would sometimes be able to get it out of that mode and back into normal but not for long.

2) Light at the end of the tunnel? After spending an hour and a half trying to debug the thing I started to suspect something funny about the mouse. Then I found in the Pod Racer manual a little sentence buried inconspicuously which said something like "Some mouse controls may interfere with joystick. In that case, hit Command M to disable it". I tried that and sure enough, it "appears" to have cured the problem - so far at least. Then I remembered people saying bad things on this board about the Logitech mouseware software. So I trashed that and everything seemed to work much better except that, obviously, the mouse wheel wasn't working anymore. So I downloaded USB Overdrive which gave me that option back.

Moral of the story: Logitech Mouseware appears to conflict with Cyborg 3D and/or Pod Racer. Unless I post another update, that is the (happy at last) ending of this story!

Now for another question on this setup: I thought that the Cyborg 3D had this cool throttle on the base of the joystick. But when I go to the Pod Racer Joystick setting and click on throttle it says "Move axis and hit Enter to accept" But when I go ahead and move the throttle up an down, the Pod Racer settings don't seem to recognize it and all I get is a bunch of question marks. So right now, all I have for speed control is the on/off switch in the joystick trigger. Does anyone know how to activate the "real" joystick throttle?

Thank you very much!

     
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Jan 3, 2001, 09:24 PM
 
I have similar behavior with Podracer/Cyborg 3D Gold combo. My mouse is a Microsoft Intellimouse but I don't know if that is related to my problems. Initially the Podracer would only steer to the left. I called Saitek and they told me to download Warbirds and use its calibration page. I did that and gained the ability to steer right and left. The throttle still has no effect in Podracer or Warbirds. I've seen Podracer loose its steering after a lap or two also. I downloaded USB Overdrive and had all kinds of wierd behavior on my Mac, such as the joystick scrolling through folders on my hard drive. I took it off!

Originally posted by Lebodde:
Here is an update in case others are facing the same problem, plus a new question:

1) Symptoms: After Calibrating it through Bugdom, it would go through about half a lap in Pod Racer with direction control working but at constant, uncontrollable speed (normally speed is to be controlled as an on/off thing by the joystick trigger). Then it would loose its right side direction and be pulling completely to the left, eventually just running around in circles by itself. After hitting a whole bunch of keys and mouse clicks I would sometimes be able to get it out of that mode and back into normal but not for long.

2) Light at the end of the tunnel? After spending an hour and a half trying to debug the thing I started to suspect something funny about the mouse. Then I found in the Pod Racer manual a little sentence buried inconspicuously which said something like "Some mouse controls may interfere with joystick. In that case, hit Command M to disable it". I tried that and sure enough, it "appears" to have cured the problem - so far at least. Then I remembered people saying bad things on this board about the Logitech mouseware software. So I trashed that and everything seemed to work much better except that, obviously, the mouse wheel wasn't working anymore. So I downloaded USB Overdrive which gave me that option back.

Moral of the story: Logitech Mouseware appears to conflict with Cyborg 3D and/or Pod Racer. Unless I post another update, that is the (happy at last) ending of this story!

Now for another question on this setup: I thought that the Cyborg 3D had this cool throttle on the base of the joystick. But when I go to the Pod Racer Joystick setting and click on throttle it says "Move axis and hit Enter to accept" But when I go ahead and move the throttle up an down, the Pod Racer settings don't seem to recognize it and all I get is a bunch of question marks. So right now, all I have for speed control is the on/off switch in the joystick trigger. Does anyone know how to activate the "real" joystick throttle?

Thank you very much!

     
   
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