[P]

It just came out for Wintel, and I want those changes!

[Osirisis]

Originally posted by P:
<STRONG>It just came out for Wintel, and I want those changes!</STRONG>

You can see the reply to the question yourself here in the topic labeled "ETA on 1.21 patch for Civ3?".

Brad does lots of good work. He's in the know

[ 04-24-2002: Message edited by: Osirisis ]

[P]

Originally posted by Osirisis:
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You can see the reply to the question yourself here in the topic labeled "ETA on 1.21 patch for Civ3?".

Brad does lots of good work. He's in the know

[ 04-24-2002: Message edited by: Osirisis ]</STRONG>

OK, thanks. Yes, I know Brad knows what he's talking about ...

[kardinal.cmg]

Maybe it would finally solve the corrption bug that I seem to be experiencing... After I've got a fairly large empire amassed, corruption becomes a wee bit of a problem. But when I change governments (from despotism to monarchy to republic to democracy), the corruption rate never goes down!!!

Which means managing my large German empire, around 60% of the available land mass, a huge pain in the backside. On top of that, I'm at war with most other civs, and the only way I can successfully defend myself and counterattack is by keeping my major cities producing a constant stream of troops, as the cities further from the centre are way too slow to produce them effectively...

[P]

Originally posted by kardinal.cmg:
<STRONG>Maybe it would finally solve the corrption bug that I seem to be experiencing... After I've got a fairly large empire amassed, corruption becomes a wee bit of a problem. But when I change governments (from despotism to monarchy to republic to democracy), the corruption rate never goes down!!!

Which means managing my large German empire, around 60% of the available land mass, a huge pain in the backside. On top of that, I'm at war with most other civs, and the only way I can successfully defend myself and counterattack is by keeping my major cities producing a constant stream of troops, as the cities further from the centre are way too slow to produce them effectively... </STRONG>

That's not a bug, that's by design. Use a commercial Civ, put cities in wltkd-mode, build courthouse and police station. Corruption's being toned a bit further in the 1.21 patch though.

[kardinal.cmg]

Originally posted by P:
<STRONG>

That's not a bug, that's by design. Use a commercial Civ, put cities in wltkd-mode, build courthouse and police station. Corruption's being toned a bit further in the 1.21 patch though.</STRONG>

Huh? If I remember correctly, it says in the manual that corruption is reduced with more advanced forms of government. Is that not the case? And is so, why'd they print it?

[qyn]

I'd agree that corruption is too high, regardless of the manual or design. In far-flung cities, I can barely get higher than 1 shield, even with democracy-courthouse-police station. I don't even try to keep a large empire, just go for the massive buildup, then blitzkreig and wipe out everyone at once.

[P]

Originally posted by kardinal.cmg:
<STRONG>

Huh? If I remember correctly, it says in the manual that corruption is reduced with more advanced forms of government. Is that not the case? And is so, why'd they print it?</STRONG>

OK, changing government does help: Despotism is higher, Democracy is lower, Communism is "smeared out", but it doesn't do as much as you seem to think (and I honestly think Democracy should do more). There is a counter on how many cities you have - above some value, corruption goes into overdrive. On the default map, this value is 16 cities.