[PeteL999]

How do I make a disk image so I can play my games until I fix my cd drive I think I pulled it out of my iMac to hard when it rattled

[This message has been edited by PeteL999 (edited 09-02-2000).]

[mac freak]

If I were you, I'd edit that post to say nothing. The last guy that mentioned piracy in the forums was banned for a week.

[Cipher13]

Yep, I'd delete that a'right - the last guy to post something like that, poor old Johnny, ain't never seen him since that terrible day!
They patrol these forums I tell ya, in disguise... Do you really want to be next?!?
Do it man, its not too late!!!

Oh yeah, if you are going to ask stuff like that, don't be so blatent. Be vague, people will get the idea...
Perhaps slip in a , or two...
"How can I get a copy of my corrupted Sims 2?"
"How can I get Diablo 2 to run without the CD, cause its just so slow off it..."
K?
Oh yeah, I do not condone the piracy of software or any crap like that, nor does MacNN or anything... When I say post questions like that more subtley, its a general sort of thing - I don't mean thats how you ask for pirate software!

Cipher13

[This message has been edited by Cipher13 (edited 09-02-2000).]

[blizzard]

Even if you ignore the obvious fact that piracy is a bad thing (understatement), this particular topic has been covered about three times in this forum alone, albeit in somewhat more legal terms. Please search the forums for your question before you post it.

Everyone above is correct; if you ask a question concerning how to get pirated software, or create pirated software, or even post a message condoning the piracy of software, bad things will happen. It should be obvious: piracy is illegal. I'm going to leave it at that for now.

Blizzard.

I beg to differ on this. I do not believe that making a disk image of a game is considered pirating.

I may be wrong here, becouse I rarely if at ever read the terms of agreement when I buy software. Maybe I should though.

That said, I dont pirate software. Never have. Actually that is a lie to some degree. I when I was a youngen probably pirated or copied a few floppies in my hey day. But hey I was just a youngen copying floppies for friends. I dont think I was even 10 years old. Cant remember. Anyway I am new here to this forum and I hope Macnn Does not ban me. I relly like MAcnn and their forum layout. It sure beats Maccentral.

Anyway before I deviate any further form the above topic, I just want to ask, does creating a disk image of a CD (game) constitute pirating if the user/owner owns the CD. I mean, without reading any of the agreement stuff that comes with the software, common sense tells me that it is ok and there is nothing wrong with: a) making a backup CD with a buner for yourself and b) making a disk image on your computer so you dont have to reload the CD evrytime you play. I mean I dont think there is anything wrong with it so long as you dont actually sell the software away to make money or freely distribute the software in any way be it by web or CD. Well thats my 2 cents on this matter. Like I said I am not and have not read the actual license agreement so I am not going by that just some common sense.

Remember, just my 2 cents.

Freak

[Leonard]

I have to agree with Freak on this. Making a disk image doesn't equal piracy. I for one made a disk image of UT (an almost empty disk image) to be able to play UT without having to keep the UT CD in my Mac. It's quite a convenience for a gamer who plays UT quite a bit or plays UT and Deus Ex quite a bit (don't have to switch CDs). I have never pirated software (at least since I got my own Mac).

So back to how you would do it... get a copy of Apple's diskcopy. You can find it on www.versiontracker.com if you don't have a copy. And from there you simply make a disk image using the right options. For UT, I actually just made a small disk image of 500 - 750k instead of the actual full-size disk image, called it Unreal Tournament, created a folder called textures, and copied the file palette.utx (i think) to that folder and voila... no need for a CD. I forgot to mention that the disk image must have the option of writeable or write-enable or read/write on.

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[slboett]

A couple of non-pirate answers...

Making CD images with ShrinkWrap or Disk Copy will usually work.
Some games allow "full" installs which mean you don't need to use the orignial CD.

Scott

[Cipher13]

Freak, I agree with you, however when the posts above yours were posted, thats not what the original message said...
You are right, and are within your rights (usually) to create a BACK UP copy that will only be used if the original is damaged beyond repair and will only be used by you.
However, a disc image does not constitute a BACK UP and therefore if found in your possession could be acted against.
If you get what I mean...
Although thats the legality of it all, I have a bunch of my games imaged cause I'm too damned lazy to reach down and change disks...

Cipher13

[Blakhawkg3]

I made a disk image of my UT CD so I wouldn't have to wait for it to spin up every single time I finished a game or level. It also seems to load faster that way. Starcraft doesn't work with images so I still have to wait for the CD to spin up before games. Oh well...

Most license agreements state that the user/owner of the software is legally allowed to make one backup copy of the CD for personal use only. Disk images if you own the game are certainly legal unless you burn CDs of them and give them out on the street.

-Blakhawkg3

[imacman11]

Hell, making disk images is not pirating in ANY way, UNLESS you don't own the program...
I have 30 games...all the new ones...And the ones that need it (unlike quake3), I make a disk image for...I don't have to wait for CD load times or spin ups...its an incredible time saver and it makes it a lot easier...especially on an old iMac with the freaking tray...
(also, 40GB of storage helps making complete disk images...)



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[seanyepez]

What was that? Huh? I want to know, I want to know! How can I get him into trouble? Just kidding.

Anyway, you can use Disk Copy safely with Quake III: Arena and Unreal Tournament. That'll let you play your legit game without a CD.

[slboett]

You are right, and are within your rights (usually) to create a BACK UP copy that will only be used if the original is damaged beyond repair and will only be used by you.
However, a disc image does not constitute a BACK UP and therefore if found in your possession could be acted against.

Dude! You are soooo wrong - there is no right or wrong way to legally burn/copy/create your backup of software you own. Disk image, CD, DVD-RAM, tape, whatever you use is perfectly fine. As far as only being able to make one backup, well, that may be the case, but I have numerous copies of some things - it's the nature of the way some backups work. I would love to see somebody prosecuted for making more than one copy (and not giving it away, selling it, etc.).

Scott

[Cipher13]

Oh ok, cool
I was going off the general idea I got from the 2 EULA's I've read in my life...

Cipher13