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I use the nVidia Geforce4 Ti for all of my games. Quake 3 and Return to Castle Wolfenstein can not seem to get about 99fps no matter what the settings are, on highest it goes to 99 sometimes, and on lower setings the FPS is almost always 99. Why won't it go any higher?
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by Vash:
<strong>I use the nVidia Geforce4 Ti for all of my games. Quake 3 and Return to Castle Wolfenstein can not seem to get about 99fps no matter what the settings are, on highest it goes to 99 sometimes, and on lower setings the FPS is almost always 99. Why won't it go any higher?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">By lowest settings, do you mean with a resolution of 640x480? I would think Quake 3 should get above 99 FPS at 640x480 on a Geforce 4 Ti. RTCW definitely won't get above 99FPS except for certain instants. I've seen many commments that RTCW is GPU intensive. At a higher resolution than 640x480 the memory bandwith and the bandwith of the card, and the CPU becomes a bottleneck.
What machine do you have? How much RAM? Do you have the most up-to-date version of Quake 3?
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by Vash:
<strong>I use the nVidia Geforce4 Ti for all of my games. Quake 3 and Return to Castle Wolfenstein can not seem to get about 99fps no matter what the settings are, on highest it goes to 99 sometimes, and on lower setings the FPS is almost always 99. Why won't it go any higher?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Most likely because your monitor has an update frequency of 99 or 100 Hz. Many games, and I know Q3 for sure, will max at the update frequency of the monitor, because you can't see the difference anyway.
There is a setting disable this behaviour, but I don't know what it is.
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Matter of fact, I had this web page ( <a href="http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/Graphics/geforce4_ti/geforce4_titanium_Mac.html" target="_blank">http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/Graphics/geforce4_ti/geforce4_titanium_Mac.html</a> ) open at the same time, and they get over 100FPS at 1280x1024.
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Yeah, you must have VSync enabled. It's not really worth turning off with that powerful a card anyway. W/ Vsync off you get nasty tears in the rendering...
I'd only turn it off if I was benchmarking.
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I do not think that it is the frequency of my monitor, because it is the 22" Apple cinema display. Also I am running a Dual 1ghz with 1.5GB RAM. And for some strange reason I cant change the frequency of the monitor, it says "n/a"
Also to see if I could get above 99fps, I set everything as low as it could go in Quake 3, resolution 640x480, all settings on low, bilinear, vertex, and low texture detail. Same results a solid 90 something, couldn't read case changing so much. i had the same results on a resolution of 1280x1024 with everying on highest setting! Is 99fps the max of Q3, my monitor, or what?
<small>[ 05-29-2002, 09:53 PM: Message edited by: Vash ]</small>
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif"> I do not think that it is the frequency of my monitor, because it is the 22" Apple cinema display. Also I am running a Dual 1ghz with 1.5GB RAM. And for some strange reason I cant change the frequency of the monitor, it says "n/a"
Also to see if I could get above 99fps, I set everything as low as it could go in Quake 3, resolution 640x480, all settings on low, bilinear, vertex, and low texture detail. Same results a solid 90 something, couldn't read case changing so much. i had the same results on a resolution of 1280x1024 with everying on highest setting! Is 99fps the max of Q3, my monitor, or what? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">You see a n/a for refresh rate (frequency) because you are using an lcd display -- not sure exactly how to explain it quickly, but they don't have refresh rates like crt's do, or at least they don't have variable rates.
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Actually if you have an LCD then it's probably something else. Check your autoexec.cfg and config.cfg for cl_maxfps. You might have set it to 99 or something at some point to help you do the harder jumps back in the day when Q3A's physics were affected by framerate.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by echoes:
<strong>Actually if you have an LCD then it's probably something else. Check your autoexec.cfg and config.cfg for cl_maxfps. You might have set it to 99 or something at some point to help you do the harder jumps back in the day when Q3A's physics were affected by framerate.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">I know that sometimes there is a FPS cap in RTCW.
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I have tryed everything that everyone has said....yet still no results. I know Q3 can go far above 100 is the FPS sticks to 90-99 at all times. I am pretty sure it must be my LCD monitor, is there anyway to make the monitor get more FPS. It might be Quake but that pretty doubtable.
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