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Dec 9, 2002, 10:47 AM
 
how do i make one for my website?

and since people who know the answer to that are probably experienced to know the answer to these other things ill get them out of the way now:

1) Is there a way to make a browser get a current version of a website, rather than sticking with the cached version? (i am working in HTML, but I am not coding it, I'm letting dreamweaver handle the hard stuff)

2) How hard is it to make a poll wiget for a website? Are there any templates out there that i could use?

[fire retardant]i know I will probably catch flack for not knowing how to code, but that just isn't how my brain works. that stuff is really hard for me to pick up.[/fire retardant]
     
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Dec 9, 2002, 10:56 AM
 
A)So far I haven't gotten the little "favorites" icon feature to work. On some browsers you just put a .ico file in the root folder called favorite.ico or something and it works. Others you have to type something that links to it. Information can be found at http://www.favicon.com/

B)Some browsers let you hold shift while pressing refresh, some if you click the address bar and press return. Some, like Internet Explorer, are seemingly random. I find the best way is to go into the prefs and set it to 0Mb cache size and always refresh.

C)Poll wiget. Widget? Dunno. Using PHP it would be pretty easy (for me), for non-coders I would try some free online service. Search for free polls maybe. Let us know what your preferred language would be and someone can give you more information.

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Dec 9, 2002, 05:37 PM
 
Originally posted by redJag:
B)Some browsers let you hold shift while pressing refresh, some if you click the address bar and press return. Some, like Internet Explorer, are seemingly random. I find the best way is to go into the prefs and set it to 0Mb cache size and always refresh.
What I meant there was I want to know it I can put something in the page that tells the browser to get a fresh load. I change my site reasonably ofte, but when I test it out onve it's on the server I have to hit reload at every page. I was kinda hoping there was a way to get the page to tell the browser to load a new one...
     
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Dec 9, 2002, 08:27 PM
 
Oh, ok. So what even do you want to trigger the refresh? If you just want it to refresh itself on a regular interval use:

< meta http-equiv="REFRESH" content="10; URL=filename.html" >
(refreshes every 10 seconds)
I don't really understand. It sounds like you're asking for a way to refresh without refreshing, but maybe I'm just reading it wrong. If its possible, I would recommend a browser other than IE just because it doesn't like letting go of cached files sometimes. If I'm still answering the wrong question, I apologize.

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Dec 10, 2002, 02:41 AM
 
Originally posted by Axo1ot1:


What I meant there was I want to know it I can put something in the page that tells the browser to get a fresh load. I change my site reasonably ofte, but when I test it out onve it's on the server I have to hit reload at every page. I was kinda hoping there was a way to get the page to tell the browser to load a new one...
Are you using IE? Just go to 'preferences -> Advanced' and select the radio button which says 'always' for the 'update cache files'. This means all files - including stylesheets, javascripts and images - will be retrieved for every view for every page.

If you're not using IE, there's bound to be a similarly marked preference somewhere in your browser prefs.

I just have this set the whole time for my broadband account just to be double sure my testing is never spoilt by wasting time on precached pages.
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Dec 12, 2002, 02:53 PM
 
In your &lt;head&gt; inlcude the meta tags
Code:
&lt;META HTTP-EQUIV="Pragma" CONTENT="no-cache"&gt; &lt;META HTTP-EQUIV="Expires" CONTENT="-1"&gt;
that refresh business is overkill

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Dec 13, 2002, 09:26 PM
 
the link posted earlier covered some points, but to be concise: The .ico format can be found in Graphic Converter; I don't know if Photoshop 7 has it, but it's not a format supported in my copy of PShop6. I created a gif image 16 x16 in 'shop because I'm more familiar with it, but then opened it in Graphic Converter and saved it as an .ico file. Stuck it in my graphics directory and run my link to it thusly in the head section:
Code: link rel="SHORTCUT ICON" href="graphix/favicon.ico":End Code
It shows up fine in Netscape 7 on the mac, but IE5 doesn't show it...
The usual caveats about my non-existent omniscience apply...hope this helps.
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Dec 20, 2002, 01:12 AM
 
I would recommend using iconographer for creating it. You will want to create a favicon.ico with both 16x16 and 32x32 versions. There are occasions when IE for PC will use the 32x32 version (for website shortcuts on the desktop for instance).

Also, you will want to place it on the root of your domain, so that IE/PC uses it.
link rel="shortcut icon" href="/favicon.ico"
link rel="icon" href="/favicon.ico" type="image/ico"


This is the way I set it up on my site, and it works great for every browser that supports it.

Cheers,
Grant Skinner.
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Dec 22, 2002, 12:01 AM
 
as a sidenote, you don't need to save it as .ico and then upload. from Terminal:

ftp> put
(local-file) favicon.gif
(remote-file) favicon.ico

worked for me.
     
   
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