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For a C++ programmer..Learning Cocoa with Objective-C VS.Cocoa(R) Programming for OSX
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Dec 17, 2002, 11:12 PM
 
I have about 3 years of C++ programming experience but haven't touched c nor objective c at all.

Which book would be better to use ot begin leanring cocoa?

Learning Cocoa with Objective-C by Oreilly

Or...

Cocoa(R) Programming for Mac(R) OS X by Aaron Hillegass


I have heard great things about both of these books.

I have heard that Aaron Hillegass' book is better for C++ programmers...

Any opinions?

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Dec 18, 2002, 02:16 AM
 
I have the Hillegass book and it's great. I've heard pretty mixed reviews about the O'Reilly book, primarily that you can find most of the information it contains within Apple's Dev Tools documentation. I don't think you can go wrong with the Hillegass book, it's one of the best tutorial programming books I've read.
     
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Dec 18, 2002, 03:21 AM
 
Originally posted by itai195:
I have the Hillegass book and it's great. I've heard pretty mixed reviews about the O'Reilly book, primarily that you can find most of the information it contains within Apple's Dev Tools documentation.
That was the first edition. The second edition is supposed to be completely rewritten, and much better. I've heard nothing but glowing reviews of it.

By the way, Amazon has a reader review feature. If you're interested in knowing how a book is, I'd check there.
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Dec 19, 2002, 11:28 PM
 
I am leaning torwards Oreilly...

But I may get both....hmmm

Thanks for the input

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Dec 20, 2002, 12:12 PM
 
Originally posted by m2bored:
I am leaning torwards Oreilly...

But I may get both....hmmm

Thanks for the input

M2
My advice: Buy BOTH of them AND pick up a copy of Cocoa Recipes for Mac OS X while you're at it. You can never have enough good programming books that contain lots of examples. Even when books present the same material each author often brings a different perspective to the table that you can benefit from.

The O'Reilly and Hillegrass book are both good teaching books while the Cocoa Recipe book is one huge thick tutorial that provides tons of useful code snippets and working examples.
     
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Jan 9, 2003, 12:44 AM
 
I'm just starting out with programming, period, and I chose to get Hillegass's book. It's a little much for me at first, so I'm reading the developer docs that Apple gave me and working with Hillegass along the way. It's working out well so far. I'm only about a week or two into it and it's making sense.
     
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Jan 13, 2003, 11:54 AM
 
I've also just started to play around with Cocoa, being a C++ programmer for 3 years. I bought the book from Aaron Hillegass and the 'Cocoa Programming' from Scott Anguish/Erik M.Buck/Donald A. Yacktmann.
I'm using both books making one example in one book and then making a example in the other. Works great for me.


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Jan 13, 2003, 04:26 PM
 
Especially if you're coming from the C++ world, getting several books with lots of examples each is good. You sort of have to think differently (no pun intended) about OO design principles when you're using ObjC, and lots of well-written examples will help you forget C++ design patterns.
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