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villalobos · Apr 7, 2003, 09:30 PM

I am working on a simple website for my hockey team. I am trying to code everything by hand. Nothing fancy here.

I am running into problems. I have this table setup, to look 'cool'. The problem is only Camino likes it. IE and Safari cant render it properly. I tried to follow the W3C recommendations. So is that a IE/Safari issue. OR is it me.......

Check the page at http://iceplexscorpions.jbbweb.net/i...ns(short).html

Thanks

Villa

Camelot · Apr 7, 2003, 11:51 PM

There's several problems with the page, some of which may or may not be affecting the display of the page.

First, there are no <HTML> and </HTML> tags in the document. There should be a <HTML> tag above the <HEAD> tag, and there should be a </HTML> tag after the </BODY> at the end.

Secondly, you have several table cells that have "rowspan=0". I can't imagine this is legal - what's the point of a cell that takes 0 space?

Third, several of the lines (especially table row lines) appear to have null characters at the end. These might be special formatting characters inserted by word processing programs or similar - Word, for example, is notorious for doing this.

FWIW, the definitive HTML checker is the W3C Validator available at http://validator.w3.org/

Enter your URL and it will parse it and report errors (down to which characters in which lines) it has a problem with, based on the definitive HTML references (which the W3C maintain)

maguirer · Apr 8, 2003, 12:37 AM

Originally posted by Camelot:
Secondly, you have several table cells that have "rowspan=0". I can't imagine this is legal - what's the point of a cell that takes 0 space?

According to the specs, a row or column with a span of 0 should span the maximum distance possible. The problem is, I've never seen a browser that does that.

villalobos · Apr 8, 2003, 07:20 AM

Originally posted by Camelot:
There's several problems with the page, some of which may or may not be affecting the display of the page.

First, there are no <HTML> and </HTML> tags in the document. There should be a <HTML> tag above the <HEAD> tag, and there should be a </HTML> tag after the </BODY> at the end.

Secondly, you have several table cells that have "rowspan=0". I can't imagine this is legal - what's the point of a cell that takes 0 space?

Third, several of the lines (especially table row lines) appear to have null characters at the end. These might be special formatting characters inserted by word processing programs or similar - Word, for example, is notorious for doing this.

FWIW, the definitive HTML checker is the W3C Validator available at http://validator.w3.org/

Enter your URL and it will parse it and report errors (down to which characters in which lines) it has a problem with, based on the definitive HTML references (which the W3C maintain)

Thanks for the reply. The rowspan="0" has been addressed by a poster above. It is legal HTML 4.01 stuff. It might indeed be the problem. The gecko engine apparently respects it. There is hope future version of Safari will as well. I need to check that on the dark side too.
Regarding the null characters at the end of the lines, I noticed that using the link you gave. The thing is I don't know how to get rid of these. I don't 'see' any bad characters.
Oh yeah, I'll take care of the <html> tag.....

villa

Rainy Day · Apr 8, 2003, 10:31 PM

Regarding the null characters at the end of the lines, I noticed that using the link you gave. The thing is I don't know how to get rid of these. I don't 'see' any bad characters.

Any good text editor should be able to remove non-printing characters. Tex-Edit, for example, can do this.

One of the great things for web developers about iCab is that it has a built-in HTML checker. For example, it yields this on your page:

Code:
http://iceplexscorpions.jbbweb.net/iceplexscorpions(short).html
Error (5/74): The end tag &lt;/META&gt; is not defined.
Error (16/44): Tags or text are not allowed here. The tag &lt;TD&gt; is missing.
Error (17/54): Tags or text are not allowed here. The tag &lt;TD&gt; is missing.
Warning (19/6): The tag &lt;CENTER&gt; should no longer be used since HTML 4.0.
Error (20/63): The end tag &lt;/IMG&gt; is not defined.
Error (23/55): Tags or text are not allowed here. The tag &lt;TD&gt; is missing.
Error (34/5): In the tag &lt;TD&gt; the attribute "CELLPADDING" is not allowed.
Warning (36/6): The tag &lt;CENTER&gt; should no longer be used since HTML 4.0.
Warning (45/5): The attribute "BACKGROUND" is not allowed for the tag &lt;TD&gt;.
Warning (47/6): The tag &lt;CENTER&gt; should no longer be used since HTML 4.0.
Error (48/68): The start tag for &lt;/P&gt; can't be found.