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May 19, 2003, 06:38 AM
 
Hi all,

I'd be very thankfull if you can give some criticism on the following design:

http://www.miekhelpt.nl/test/index.html

And also if you can test it with different browsers.

I've tested it with:

- Safari v74
- Camino 0.7
- IE 5.5 Windows
- Phoenix latest build windows

In all, BUT IE they display correctly. IE frustrates me, since it ****s up the whole layout...

Anybody can help me as well with providing some hints in making it work in IE?
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May 19, 2003, 07:33 AM
 
ok, I've added some tests:

- IE 5.2 Mac OSX: surprisingly good, allthough the footer isn't aligned 150px from the right (right: 150px)
- Opera 5.0 Mac OSX: perfect
- Mozilla 1.4 Mac OSX: perfect
- Omniweb 4.2.1: awfull

My main consern is Internet Explorer 5.5 on windows It should be rendered right in this browser, since the majority is using it. don't know how 5.0 and 6.0 displays it, so any feedback would be awsome...

Hope anyone can help me fix this page so it renders at least ok in IE for windows (5 and up)
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May 19, 2003, 07:50 AM
 
ok, IE 5.0 en 6.0 on windows both don't render it good either (not that I expected that...)

I hope there is some way to fix it...
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May 19, 2003, 08:18 AM
 
It apeared IE doesn't support position: fixed

frustrating
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May 21, 2003, 07:37 PM
 
I can't read dutch (?) so no comments there. Do have a couple of other comment though. 1) your navigation section is huge compared to your content, you may want to rethink that, or just see how it looks when you add more content. 2) the two words below the MH logo are thin and get lost, should make them bolder so you can actually read them. Or maybe get rid of the "Miek Helpt" line in the logo altogether, it says it right beside it anyway. 2b) How many times do you even need that MH logo? You have it in the navigation and you say it a couple places. 3) check the positioning in your CSS, when I resize the window small all the elements cram together.

Just looked at it in Safari. The design is an improvement over miekhelpt.nl, perhaps a little too bold for me, but then again I don't know what the site is about.

btw who's the girl?
     
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May 22, 2003, 09:06 AM
 
Originally posted by wreks:
Ibtw who's the girl?
Yes, she's cute.
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May 22, 2003, 11:22 AM
 
Originally posted by Developer:
Yes, she's cute.
, the (36 yr old) women is my sister, and sorry guys: she is taken....

thanks for your comments, I will look into these. the 'Miek Helpt' text is a bit too much around the page I agree

but from a design perspective? is it ok? I'm not a designer myself, so am curious what you think of it (the logo isn't my design though...)

This design is a start, it's not the final one, so any improvements would be good

layer positioning isn't good, I know. Guess I'm gonna do it with tables, since IE can't handle it properly still :censored:
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May 22, 2003, 01:01 PM
 
I agree with the previous posts that the navigation and header sections take up too much of the page. No content exists to this point, but there doesnt appear to be much room for it.

From a practical standpoint, if this is a personal site or the contact info on the bottom is personal, I'd remove it. You can find a free sendmail script pretty easily.

Finally...about the pic...everyone should spend time in the Netherlands simply because the women are just better looking than american women in general. I've been fortunate enough to live out there for the last 2 months and I just don't get tired of this.
     
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May 25, 2003, 05:28 PM
 
thanks for the constructive criticism guys

Finally...about the pic...everyone should spend time in the Netherlands simply because the women are just better looking than american women in general. I've been fortunate enough to live out there for the last 2 months and I just don't get tired of this.
Where are you staying? Amsterdam?
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May 28, 2003, 11:35 AM
 
Im stuck using WinDOS at work (hopefully not for long!) , and I can confirm that it looks just peachy in Opera 7.11 for Windows. However, the text doesnt wrap, so unless the window is sufficiently wide, you get a horizontal scrollbar.

Netscape 7.0.2 (Win) puts your address all the way at the bottom of the page, so if page isnt wide enough, its behind the horizontal scrollbar—so you get a vertical scrollbar, too.

The page appears perfect in both of these and Internet Explorer 6.0.2800.1106 (stupid Microsoftian version numbers) if the window is wide enough for the MH logo not to overlap the text.
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May 28, 2003, 12:05 PM
 
If you want to keep the fixed positioning in IE5/6, use the Java found here. One huge drawback though: scrolling the page in IE looks like crap, all jittery. But at least you don't have to retool your design.
     
   
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