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qnc · Jul 4, 2003, 09:04 AM

Are there any forums where people will look at code from a page and tell you why it won't work in different browsers and help a person in getting unversal browser coding advice?

clam2000 · Jul 4, 2003, 11:08 AM

well, on www.w3.org they have an html validator which will tell you where your code isn't valid, if you still have problems you can post it here and we'll try and find work arounds for you

--will

OptimusG4 · Jul 4, 2003, 11:26 AM

Remember: IE for Windows has its own standards so if you use CSS, don't count on more than 60% of it working. A good example is http://www.macrabbit.com/cssedit.

If you use just HTML, the W3C validator will work just fine.

Ludovic Hirlimann · Jul 8, 2003, 06:47 AM

Originally posted by clam2000:
well, on www.w3.org they have an html validator which will tell you where your code isn't valid, if you still have problems you can post it here and we'll try and find work arounds for you

--will

The URL is validator.w3.org

qnc · Jul 8, 2003, 06:55 AM

tried it and got

I was not able to extract a character encoding labeling from any of the valid sources for such information. Without encoding information it is impossible to validate the document. The sources I tried are:

The HTTP Content-Type field.
The XML Declaration.
The HTML "META" element.

I always assumed that I was coding in html javascript and css but not to any standard

I was preparing for xml but never got round to full code is it worth doing that now will older browsers see it.

is it worth doing object sensing i.e. dependant on browser gives a different format?

sorry I am a bit confused now?

york28 · Jul 8, 2003, 08:44 AM

The validator won't even try to check your page if it doesn't know what set of rules to check it against. You need something like this:
[php]
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
[/php]

(Please note that this isn't PHP but I couldn't get the code tag to work)

This is for XHTML 1.0, you may need to use something else like HTML 4.01 Transitional depending on your code.

As for the actual code, it's best to just go ahead with XHTML at this point in my opinion. OptimusG4 is correct, however, about the sketchy support for CSS2 in IE.

The reason that the Document Type Definition is so important is that it is also how a browser will decide how to display your page.

If you need more help, or can't find the right DTD online let me know, I have a book at home with pretty much any DTD from HTML 4 up.

Millennium · Jul 8, 2003, 08:53 AM

For the moment, I would sugggest coding to HTML 4.01 Transitional, actually, simply because it is the easiest one to get to when you're starting from tag-soup. That will get you up, running, and compliant relatively quickly.

As for coding advice, you might want to try Dave Raggett's tutorial at http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Guide/. It's basic, but it gets the job done.

qnc · Jul 8, 2003, 09:09 AM

I put this at the top of the page and already it is looking better

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Frameset//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/frameset.dtd">

now need to find out why slide show is not working

soory have it on my desktop while I debug it for a while

any spot its???

qnc · Jul 8, 2003, 09:14 AM

I addapted this banner program it works fine on ie and safari may be the mixed code

http://www.cgiscript.net/cgi-script/...wone&id=23

validator is still not recognisisng the page when I upload it from my desktop