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drainyoo · Jul 28, 2003, 03:33 PM

Is there a way around it? I want to style a drop down menu in a form but it only works in IE. Doesnt work in Safari or Camino.

Is there a way to get it to work? Has Apple let this out for a reason or have they not implemented it yet?

Millennium · Jul 28, 2003, 08:36 PM

This is the price you pay for native widgets.

ameat · Jul 28, 2003, 08:57 PM

Originally posted by drainyoo:
Is there a way around it? I want to style a drop down menu in a form but it only works in IE. Doesnt work in Safari or Camino.

Is there a way to get it to work? Has Apple let this out for a reason or have they not implemented it yet?

you can't really do much with dropdowns in any browser on any platform...background color and maybe a border but it never looks good...plus the aqua widgets aren't that bad looking.

drainyoo · Jul 28, 2003, 09:04 PM

Originally posted by ameat:
you can't really do much with dropdowns in any browser on any platform...background color and maybe a border but it never looks good...plus the aqua widgets aren't that bad looking.

Yes you can. Go to www.yayhooray.com but view it on IE and look at the drop down in the center. In it it reads QUICKIES or something.

redJag · Jul 28, 2003, 09:19 PM

..looks rather bland to me? Am I missing something here?

Anyway, the "best" way to do it would be to use custom images. That is the *only* way for it to look the same on all browsers/platforms. It's also a rather bandwidth-intense solution. I'd suggest finding a way to use the default drop-downs if possible.

edit: screenshot via Windows XP->IE6

clam2000 · Jul 28, 2003, 10:29 PM

if you NEED this then you will probably end up considering flash as an option. It does allow fully customizable searchy-things like this

--will

hunkhuang · Jul 28, 2003, 10:33 PM

i face the same thing too. I failed to join MSN group right now.. because CSS is MS supported !

OptimusG4 · Jul 29, 2003, 01:21 AM

Originally posted by hunkhuang:
i face the same thing too. I failed to join MSN group right now.. because CSS is MS supported !

MS supports full CSS? Since when?

Sharky K. · Jul 29, 2003, 02:28 AM

Originally posted by hunkhuang:
i face the same thing too. I failed to join MSN group right now.. because CSS is MS supported !

don't make me laugh

IE has the most horrible CSS support

Millennium · Jul 29, 2003, 05:28 AM

Originally posted by hunkhuang:
i face the same thing too. I failed to join MSN group right now.. because CSS is MS supported !

Actually, the CSS standard is silent on form controls; it is just as compliant to not allow control styling as to allow it.

That said, I do wish there were at least some limited styling support on form controls. I'm not asking for much, but being able to change button colors would be a nice thing.

By the way, "MS-supported"? I do hope you're talking about MSN/Mac. The Trident engine (also known as MSHTML, used by IE/Windows and MSN/Windows) is hands down the worst browser engine on any modern platform. Tasman, on the other hand, made massive gains in MSN/OSX to become the best on any platform thus far, but thanks to their stupid software-rental model no one can use it. There are rumblings that Tasman may be ported to Windows for Longhorn; we can only hope.

drainyoo · Jul 29, 2003, 07:53 AM

Originally posted by redJag:

..looks rather bland to me? Am I missing something here?

Anyway, the "best" way to do it would be to use custom images. That is the *only* way for it to look the same on all browsers/platforms. It's also a rather bandwidth-intense solution. I'd suggest finding a way to use the default drop-downs if possible.

edit: screenshot via Windows XP->IE6

I want to know why it doesnt work in Safari. Does Aqua overwrite the CSS Form tags? It seems like an Apple thing to do and I dont blame them. Just wondering why it didnt work.

Millennium · Jul 29, 2003, 08:25 AM

Originally posted by drainyoo:
I want to know why it doesnt work in Safari. Does Aqua overwrite the CSS Form tags? It seems like an Apple thing to do and I dont blame them. Just wondering why it didnt work.

It's not so much that Aqua overrides CSS as that it just ignores CSS. Completely. There's very little in the API to deal with any of the sorts of changes that CSS can make; Aqua's square buttons can set their background colors, but that's about it.