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Looking for good Books on: ObjC, C++
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Oct 12, 2004, 02:33 PM
 
I'm looking for a couple good books on Objective C and C++. I already know a fair bit of C and some other objective oriented programming. I have Aaron Hillegass's Cocoa book but I'd also like just an ObjC one for reference. Also a really good C++ book(s) because I'm looking into developing for the GameBoy Advance/DS.
     
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Oct 12, 2004, 06:05 PM
 
I have O'Reilly's Objective-C Pocket Reference; it's a pretty good (and quick) reference book for the language, and it covers both basic GNUstep (I think it's GNUstep) and Cocoa stuff.
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Oct 13, 2004, 10:24 AM
 
Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
I'm looking for a couple good books on Objective C and C++. I already know a fair bit of C and some other objective oriented programming. I have Aaron Hillegass's Cocoa book but I'd also like just an ObjC one for reference. Also a really good C++ book(s) because I'm looking into developing for the GameBoy Advance/DS.
Apple put out a great Obj-C reference which is found here: --> http://developer.apple.com/documenta...tiveC/ObjC.pdf

An online HTML version of this book can be found here: --> http://developer.apple.com/documenta...section_1.html

I hear Deitel's C++ book is a good place to start. I haven't checked it out but I have used Deitel's C book and thought it was useful. I used this book in a C class though, so the teacher may have filled gaps in the book without me realizing it.
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Oct 13, 2004, 10:50 AM
 
How about "The C++ Programming Language" by Bjarne Stroustrup? Being made by the creator of the language and all, it's fairly authoritative and it explains a lot of the design considerations of C++ (e.g. why he went with a C-style abstract data types system rather than a dynamically bound Smalltalk-type object model).
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Oct 13, 2004, 12:42 PM
 
Originally posted by Chuckit:
How about "The C++ Programming Language" by Bjarne Stroustrup? Being made by the creator of the language and all, it's fairly authoritative and it explains a lot of the design considerations of C++ (e.g. why he went with a C-style abstract data types system rather than a dynamically bound Smalltalk-type object model).
I think the next question would be, "But will this Stroustrup book teach me how to code in C++?" which is how I interpreted TheBadgerHunter's question.

Definitely though if you're looking for a language reference, then Stroustrup's book, along with Kernigan & Ritchie's C book should most definitely be on your shelf.
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Oct 20, 2004, 07:16 AM
 
O'Reilly's "C++ The Core Language" by Gregory Satir and Doug Brown is an excellent book for making the step up to C++ from C. Much more approachable that Stroustrup to begin with, though you should definitely buy his book too if you are going to get into C++ seriously.

If you are interested in C++ you should (eventually) look into the Standard Template Libraries too (or STL). Not always covered by C++ books. There are many books out there on STL, one you might want to consider is "STL Tutorial and Reference Guide" by Musser, Derge and Saini, published by Addison Wesley. Not a particularly 'fluffy' book, but I learned a lot from it. At least I think I did

Finally the "C/C++ Programmer's Reference" by Schildt, published by Osborne is a very useful general language reference with good STL coverage.
     
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Oct 20, 2004, 08:46 PM
 
Originally posted by Chuckit:
How about "The C++ Programming Language" by Bjarne Stroustrup? Being made by the creator of the language and all, it's fairly authoritative and it explains a lot of the design considerations of C++ (e.g. why he went with a C-style abstract data types system rather than a dynamically bound Smalltalk-type object model).
I have to say that this book is good for in-depth understanding of C++, but not as easy to read for a beginner.

But after you understand the basics and OOP concepts, this is definitely a book to go back to whenever you want to understand the true depth of C++.
     
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Nov 26, 2004, 04:42 PM
 
Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
I'm looking for a couple good books on Objective C and C++. I already know a fair bit of C and some other objective oriented programming. I have Aaron Hillegass's Cocoa book but I'd also like just an ObjC one for reference. Also a really good C++ book(s) because I'm looking into developing for the GameBoy Advance/DS.
The only book I've found that's not just some rewrite or copy of some old NeXT books is "Programming in Objective-C" By Stephen G. Kochan. best money I ever spent on a programming book for the Mac.
     
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Dec 4, 2004, 03:52 PM
 
About C++, I have "Essential C++" by Stanley B. Lippman, and I am happy with it. It's pretty good if you have previous OOP or at least some programming experience. The style of writing is kind of like Randal Schwartz' "Learning Perl" (the Llama book). It's very concise, just about 200 pg + another 50 pages of exercise solution and a summary of the generic algorythms. It doesn't teach you all C++, but it aims at the features you will you 90% of the times.
     
   
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