[rjudd]

Is anyone else disappointed that Java 5 (the other Tiger) isn't installed in final version of 10.4.
As per apple's site http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/java/

[Turias]

While it might be nice to give users the option to install Java 5, I, for one, won't miss it. I've been playing around with it on Windows for the past couple months and it still seems to be quite buggy.

[Arkham_c]

I am disappointed. Especially since I really doubt that 1.4 is 64-bit for Tiger. It could be, but I suspect that it's not. I routinely run java apps that take 4+GB of memory and the 32-bit version just chokes.

[rjudd]

Originally Posted by Turias

While it might be nice to give users the option to install Java 5, I, for one, won't miss it. I've been playing around with it on Windows for the past couple months and it still seems to be quite buggy.

Any bugs in the JVM for Windows would hopefuly not be in the Mac version as they are engineered by different people.

[Angus_D]

Originally Posted by rjudd

Any bugs in the JVM for Windows would hopefuly not be in the Mac version as they are engineered by different people.

I'm fairly sure Apple's Java is based on the Sun code.

[Brass]

Originally Posted by Angus_D

I'm fairly sure Apple's Java is based on the Sun code.

It is based on the original Sun code, but a LOT of it is rewritten from scratch to make better use of hardware and OS it is running on. In fact, one of the Java engineers at Apple said that when they find a bug in the sun code, they report it to Sun, and then duplicate the bug in their own code, to make sure that the Java applications behave the same on Mac as on other platforms.

[Kristoff]

I too am disappointed in the lack of a 64-bit JVM in Tiger. (either 1.4 or 1.5).

[itistoday]

Well, I hope that whenever they do plan on releasing it, it fixes the full-screen on CRT monitors bug. Currently you can't go higher than 800x600 on a CRT monitor.

[itistoday]

Ok, it has been released a few days ago, but it's not quite easy to actually "turn it on"... so to speak.

So for those that are wondering how, do this:

Go into /Applications/Utilities/Java/J2SE 5.0/ and run the preference program in there to set the version that Applets use.

Next open up the Terminal and type in:

Code:
# cd /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/
# sudo rm CurrentJDK
# sudo ln -s 1.5.0 CurrentJDK

Now everything should use the new version. Don't know why Apple made this so difficult.

[Thinine]

So that programs that specifically request a certain version of Java will get the right one?

[Xeo]

Originally Posted by itistoday

Ok, it has been released a few days ago, but it's not quite easy to actually "turn it on"... so to speak.

So for those that are wondering how, do this:

Go into /Applications/Utilities/Java/J2SE 5.0/ and run the preference program in there to set the version that Applets use.

Next open up the Terminal and type in:

Code:
# cd /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/
# sudo rm CurrentJDK
# sudo ln -s 1.5.0 CurrentJDK

Now everything should use the new version. Don't know why Apple made this so difficult.

I would cut that down to:

Code:
# cd /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/
# sudo ln -shf 1.5.0 CurrentJDK

Feels safer, but maybe it's just me.

Thanks for the tip though. Is that anywhere in the official documentation?

[itistoday]

Originally Posted by Xeo

I would cut that down to:

Code:
# cd /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/
# sudo ln -shf 1.5.0 CurrentJDK

Feels safer, but maybe it's just me.

Thanks for the tip though. Is that anywhere in the official documentation?

If it is, I couldn't find it.

[spinachbomb]

Originally Posted by rjudd

Is anyone else disappointed that Java 5 (the other Tiger) isn't installed in final version of 10.4.
As per apple's site http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/java/

Do you mean why didn't it make the cut ? You can get it here.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301073

[spinachbomb]

i suck.