[milf]

I'm helping a friend work through designing his site for a production company. He'd like to have his site fit on one screen w/ no scrollbars. Resolution and browser type play a roll, but how do most of you go about achieving this? Width? Height? @800x600?

[PurpleGiant]

If you're using a fixed layout, make sure it's no bigger than 760 pixels wide (allowing room for scroll bar) or about 400 high (allowing for an title bar, menu bar, toolbar, address bar, links bar, status bar and task bar).

[skalie]

Originally Posted by PurpleGiant

If you're using a fixed layout, make sure it's no bigger than 760 pixels wide (allowing room for scroll bar) or about 400 high (allowing for an title bar, menu bar, toolbar, address bar, links bar, status bar and task bar).

I've been using 760 x 460 high on the assumtion that a 800 x 600 user wouldn't have a title bar, menu bar, toolbar, address bar, links bar, status bar and task bar.

............... and if they do then it's them that are being silly, not me.

Probably bad practise, but it converts nicely to a 1024 x 768 screen resolution.

[Apfhex]

I don't think most people use anything 800x600 and below anymore, it's safe to design for 1024x768 and up unless your friend really wants ultimate screen size compatibility. I've typically designed between 600–760px wide though (I'll probably go bigger next time I do a site).

Iconfactory makes a program called xScope which is meant for this kind of thing, it displays transparent rulers on the screen which you can set to be various resolutions, including the size of a browser window in those resolutions (I think).

[James L]

Originally Posted by Apfhex

I don't think most people use anything 800x600 and below anymore, it's safe to design for 1024x768 and up unless your friend really wants ultimate screen size compatibility. I've typically designed between 600–760px wide though (I'll probably go bigger next time I do a site).

Iconfactory makes a program called xScope which is meant for this kind of thing, it displays transparent rulers on the screen which you can set to be various resolutions, including the size of a browser window in those resolutions (I think).

In June of 2005 between 28%, and 35% (depending on the site statistics you are viewing) still used 800 x 600 resolution when browsing the web.

That is about a third of the viewing audience... still too big a number to ignore imho.

Also, look at the default window size that Safari, for example, opens up. It is about 700 or 800 pixels wide. It is very rare that I resize a browser window, and if the window resizes to full screen by itself I am gone. No site that takes control of my window size is worth visiting.

[madmacgames]

Where do you get the 760px width number at Purple? Last I time I checked it out, you could go up to 778px in 800x600 without getting a horizontal scroll (800px screen width - 20px for vertical scrollbar + 1px border on each side that some browsers have = 778px)

[skalie]

Originally Posted by madmacgames

Where do you get the 760px width number at Purple?

One of the Dreamweaver defaults?

[Apfhex]

Originally Posted by James L

In June of 2005 between 28%, and 35% (depending on the site statistics you are viewing) still used 800 x 600 resolution when browsing the web.

That is about a third of the viewing audience... still too big a number to ignore imho.

Interesting! I wonder who those people are, and what browsers they're using? I can't imagine using 800x600 with anything even slightly modern. Well I guess I should keep that information in mind still.

BTW, speaking of WYSIWYG editors, GoLive CS2 new page documents default to 619px wide with presets of 520, 580 (14" monitor), and 720 (17" monitor).

But 760 pixels will definitely fit in a (full screen) 800x600 window.

[budster101]

I always thought 741 x 404 would be perfect for 800 x 600. (For Internet Explorer)