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Peter · Oct 22, 2005, 08:16 AM

I'm currently doing a computer science degree, would i have any problems making simple windows java programs on OS X?
And if so, can you recomend some *simple* Jav IDEs for OS X?
Thanks!

Evinyatar · Oct 22, 2005, 09:12 AM

You should have no problem developing Java apps on Mac and then running them on Windows. It's 98% platform independent. The IDE they used in college for teaching Java was Borland's JBuilder. It's fairly easy to use, although after a few weeks you'll probably want to use IntelliJ IDEA (if you can afford it) or Eclipse.

Peter · Oct 22, 2005, 01:20 PM

Also, we use a function called 'KBInput' -- is there anyway to make OS X compilers recognise this command?

Thinine · Oct 22, 2005, 02:03 PM

What's the point of learning Java if they're going to teach platform specific implementations? Stupid.

Catfish_Man · Oct 22, 2005, 06:41 PM

My guess is that KBInput is an object provided by the teacher, not some weird microsoft-specific thing. It should work just fine.

TheMosco · Oct 24, 2005, 06:19 PM

Use Eclipse. You will love it. In my object oriented design concepts class last year it was higher recommended to use Eclipse. I am taking software engineering this term and they also recommend eclipse.

Kristoff · Oct 25, 2005, 02:14 AM

Use NetBeans.

Using Eclipse perpetuates the fracturing of the Java community by supporting people and a framework that thumbed it's nose at the JCP and took its ball and went home.

NetBeans is 100% java and will run on EVERY platform that there is a JVM for.

Steve · Oct 27, 2005, 01:39 AM

I'm also studying for a Computer Science degree and have been using Eclipse exclusively to do Java coding in my Software Engineering classes. I have no problems with projects across different platforms (OS X, XP, Ubuntu) and it's one off the best development environments I have used (although there are some things that bother me about it, ie instability).

Kristoff · Oct 28, 2005, 03:41 PM

You missed my point.

Using eclipse to write pure java apps, and you wont have problems.

But learn a little bit about Eclipse, and where it came from, and you'll understand.

SWT is not pure java, and apps that requires SWT (including Eclipse IDE) will not run everywhere there is a JVM.

Kristoff · Oct 28, 2005, 03:48 PM

You missed my point.

Using eclipse to write pure java apps, and you wont have problems.

But learn a little bit about Eclipse, and where it came from, and you'll understand.

SWT is not pure java, and apps that requires SWT (including Eclipse IDE) will not run everywhere there is a JVM.

TheMosco · Oct 28, 2005, 04:59 PM

I have been interning for 2 years (well, intern one year, employee 1 year) and I can't think of any java developer that uses anything other than eclipse. It seems like most of software houses use it, atleast the ones i have worked with.

Kristoff · Oct 28, 2005, 11:30 PM

Son, I've been using NetBeans since before it was owned by Sun.

Plenty of people use things other than Eclipse--swt is relatively new.

Ever hear of IDEA? JBuilder?

In fact, I only know 5 people personally who use Eclipse.

oni · Oct 29, 2005, 12:45 AM

I put my vote forward for Eclipse too.

I have used a few different Java IDE's, including Jbuilder and i still find eclipse ot be the best. I actually find JBuilder to be pretty crap!

MadBrowser · Nov 6, 2005, 10:24 PM

Eclipse is a popular option but I find it pretty sluggish on OS X so I use Xcode for my Java stuff. It's not totally Java focused but it does have enough Java features to make it a good IDE.

jamil5454 · Dec 4, 2005, 04:12 PM

for simple stuff jEdit is great.