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if building were like web development
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Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Durango CO
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Client: I need a new house.
Architect: Great you have come to the right place. What do you need? How many bedrooms and bathrooms?
Client: Well, I'm not sure, can you just use some parts of our old house and then 'spruce it up'?
Client: Also I will need to add and delete rooms at my whim.
Architect: Okay... well what style would you like?
Client: It needs to be red and green, oh and when people come to the door - make it take 45 seconds to open - then they see an animation of what's inside the house.
Architect: Uh sure. What will be going in the house?
Client: Well I don't have much yet - can you put this couch in there?
Architect: Thats a barbie doll couch sir.
Client: Can't you just stretch it out to fit? You'll need to make the rest of the furniture for me I am just too busy.
Client: Also I don't have any money, can you donate most of your time out of your concern for me and so I don't go around telling everyone how horrible you are.
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Join Date: Oct 1999
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Dude, that happens in any creative business, at any given time. Just be a prick and charge double, that's what I do. Wait, don't do that; they come back anyway... 
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Join Date: Oct 2003
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Being a web developer isn't just hammering out whatever a client wants you to do. Any monkey can be trained to do that.
A lot of it is consulting, giving advise, translating what a client thinks they want into meaningful data and projects that meet their goals, etc. And a lot of times client's don't really know what they want, and it is part of our job to help them figure it out. Part of this means not being afraid to tell them no and rejecting ideas they have, giving reasons they are bad ideas, and advising alternate ideas that better meet that same goal [if the idea had any goal in the first place that is]
Sure you could just do whatever they tell you to do, but then you're just another monkey pounding on the keyboard 
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The only thing necessary for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing
- Edmund Burke
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Dedicated MacNNer
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Are Eye
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I'm totally redesigning the front door for my house now.
The doormat shall depict a progress bar, and the text "loading... please wait"
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Mac Enthusiast
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Durango CO
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Originally Posted by madmacgames
Being a web developer isn't just hammering out whatever a client wants you to do. Any monkey can be trained to do that.
its just a joke man - lighten up 
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Dedicated MacNNer
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Indianapolis, IN USA
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Of course, after the house is finished, the client will then tell you what they really want.
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Join Date: Oct 2003
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Originally Posted by mania
lighten up
I'll lighten up when you stop poking me with a stick... no really, you'd be surprised how much people relax when you stop poking them.
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The only thing necessary for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing
- Edmund Burke
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