[Kaglan]

Now, I don't have the beta, but I do have a question:

When reading the now outdated /System Overview/, I got the impression that the mac os gui had a window server and a window manager, much like other gui's for unices. Would it be possible, then, to replace the window manager, with, say, a heavily modified unix port? (maybe windowmaker)

WindowMaker and other such window managers are totally different from the "window manager" in OSX. WindowMaker Sawmill, and such are reliant on XWindows. XWindows doesn't exist in MacOS X.

I doubt apple will ever open up the APIs we need to write our own window managers. If you must have your own window manager, there is a port of XWindows to Darwin, so you might want to look in that direction

[Kaglan]

Oh, no, there is no need persay, it just would be nice to have that much control over the interface without raising compatibility issues.


So windowmaker is dependent on X, and indeed, Mac OS X is not.

[mac freak]

No, an X Windowing system has been ported to OS X... you can get it from softrak.stepwise.com .

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[stiber]

Originally posted by mac freak:
No, an X Windowing system has been ported to OS X... you can get it from softrak.stepwise.com .

Under what category? I coulnd't find it. I DO know that Tenon is/will be releasing a beta X server. For $200.

[smeger]

You can also kill the window server and run x-windows from the console. It compiles (pretty) cleanly, or binaries are available. Check out http://www.darwininfo.org

There are 2 other possibilities of X windows. A free java based one called weirdx at www.jcraft.com.

I found that one to be buggy.

Also, as discussed elsewhere on this discussion list you can use a VNC client, (the viewer is java based).

And there is the $200 from tenon, and it is currently quite buggy in beta form....