[live4mac]

Does anybody know of some Object-Oriented Analysis / Design tools for Cocoa development (primarily Objective-C)?

Tor
Bergen, Norway

[theolein]

Perhaps you could write the first one

What about Rational Rose?

[mdcarter1]

Originally posted by theolein:
<STRONG>Perhaps you could write the first one

What about Rational Rose?</STRONG>

Rational only makes Rose for Windoze and Unix. Since it's definetly
not open source i would think a port unlikely.

[mdcarter1]

Originally posted by live4mac:
<STRONG>Does anybody know of some Object-Oriented Analysis / Design tools for Cocoa development (primarily Objective-C)?

Tor
Bergen, Norway</STRONG>

Just saw this on version tracker:
http://www.arctaedius.com/ObjectPlant/index.html

[kamprath]

Originally posted by live4mac:
<STRONG>Does anybody know of some Object-Oriented Analysis / Design tools for Cocoa development (primarily Objective-C)?

Tor
Bergen, Norway</STRONG>

Omni Graffle could be used as it has a UML set of symbols, but no boiler-plate code generation. Good OOA/D tools and utilization there of should be "language independent," though if the most important feature for you is code generation, then I don't think you'll find any major OOA/D tool supporting that obscure language known as Objective C. With that said, I would argue the most important feature of OOA/D tools is NOT code generation, and instead code modeling.

Michael

[theolein]

I just sent a mail off to Rational to ask whether they would consider porting Rose to OSX and whether they'ld consider including support for ObjC.

[markphip]

Some of you may or may not have heard of a new open source project named Eclipse. See http://www.eclipse.org/

In a nutshell, IBM created an IDE framework that tools vendors can use to build their tools on top of. IBM is using this to replace all of their Java and WebSphere development tools, as well as their legacy tools like C++ and Cobol. Rational just announced a product named XDE that plugs Rose into this framework.

While Eclipse is wriiten almost entirely in Java, it uses an IBM-developed GUI toolkit that requires some native platform-specific code. This piece of Eclipse must be ported for it to support a given platform. A small group of people are looking into porting this to OS X. With this ported, any apps built on top of Eclipse could in theory run on OS X, including products like Rose.

The current port is being led by people that understand the GUI toolkit, but are fairly new to the Mac world and are just learning Carbon/Cocoa. An experienced Mac developer could really help things out.

If you are interested, go the Mailing Lists, and join the SWT mailing list and look at its Archives.

Thanks

Mark

PS - Some people have also successfully taken the Linux/GTK port of Eclipse and got it to run on OS X, but ideally we would like a Carbon/Cocoa solution.

[live4mac]

Thanks mdcarter!

I,ve tried Object Plant a few years ago, and I looked at his pages a few months ago, but I couldn't see that Object Plant could run under OSX.

Now I've written to him to clarify this and wheter he'll support ObjC in the future.
I'll let you all know the answer when he gets back to me.

Tor

[ 03-01-2002: Message edited by: live4mac ]

[live4mac]

Originally posted by theolein:
<STRONG>I just sent a mail off to Rational to ask whether they would consider porting Rose to OSX and whether they'ld consider including support for ObjC.</STRONG>

Great!
I sure would be interested in the answer to that one.
Thanks theolein.

Tor
live4mac@yahoo.no
Bergen, Norway

[BitBanger]

Well, there's also Excel Software (www.excelsoftware.com). Their MACA&D has been around a long time. I don't know about specific ObjC/OS X support.
Not wanting to pay their price for "hobby" work, I found another interesting one: ArgoUML, a JAVA based UML editor. They don't have an OS X port yet, but looks interesting, give Apple's excellent JAVA support. (www.tigris.org).
BTW, Eclipse is more of a "framework" when one can "plug and use" various tools. Part of that would be UML/CASE support. A bit more ambitious project, to keep your eyes on for sure!

[brooklyn_mac_guy]

&gt;I found another interesting one: ArgoUML, a JAVA based UML editor. They don't have an OS X port yet

gentleware has a nice application based on ArgoUML. It's called poseidon and it's what I do all my UML modelling in. You can run it on OS X but It's really kind of slow so I end up running it on Win2000. Maybe I'll have to get a 1 ghz Mac
www.gentleware.org or www.gentleware.com (can't remember which)

[ 03-01-2002: Message edited by: brooklyn_mac_guy ]

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