does someone know where I can find a binary for a moc OSX compiler...the OS is great, but they did not include GCC, WHAT were they thinking !!!

please help,

CountFacula

[danengel]

Oh, didn't you read the forum? We had a lot of discussions about that. Check out some older posts and you get the answer. Basically, you have to register at Apple for the Public Source Project (it's free), then you can download the Darwin source codes (120 MB) from which you can extract (with a little shell-script) the necessary files (cc, make, etc.). It's quite easy and worked wonderfully. BTW: Apple announced they would publish the DevTools for ADC Online Members (that's free too) in mid-November. Hope they get it done till then

I went to the library Friday and checked out Mac Programing for Dummies. The book is so old it uses "Think C" a software I couldnt find much info on. I downloaded Apples free compiler but it is so stinking cryptic I couldnt get my simple "helo world" working. I was wondering, being very new to programing, is the OS X developer tools easier to use? I am a Mac certified tech so technical things dont scare me but that Apple compiler is insane!

[Scott_H]

I'm going to move this one over to OS X Developer. There are a few threads there for people new to programming. You should check those out. Also check out Apple's developer site.

OS X Developer Click through and find the thread.

The script is nice and I extracted the compiler, from Darwin. It´s the CC and ofcourse the libm and libc is missing. So it is not really helping very much. That Apple wants US$500 for the DevTool CD is a pain.

[lonbaker]

Actually Appl edoes not require you to pay $500 for the Developer Tools. They will be posting them for free download this month. If you wanted to priority access then yes you should join the ADC but you can get them later this month from the Apple web site.

[howardm4]

It's all there and libm is integrated.

I've compiled nmap, lynx, socks and a few others already w/o any
problem.

[sordid]

A little tip for those who think that the darwin script copies most of the necessary things for compiling (found on macaddict.com, get the updated script). CC is actually EGCS (GCC), all you have to do if your config scripts start crying about no GCC is copy CC to GCC in your bin directory. Secondly, you will probably need the ncurses library too, and maybe a few others, many of the librarys can be found on softrack.stepwise.com

[sordid]

A little tip for those who think that the darwin script copies most of the necessary things for compiling (found on macaddict.com, get the updated script). CC is actually EGCS (GCC), all you have to do if your config scripts start crying about no GCC is copy CC to GCC in your bin directory. Secondly, you will probably need the ncurses library too, and maybe a few others, many of the librarys can be found on softrack.stepwise.com

[sordid]

scott: is it possible to fix that damn back button problem where it reposts what you just said, its a force of habbit.

Downloaded the darwin image...did I grab the right file...or did I need the source..

and then the script...where exactly is this script..I went hunting around and counld not find it..

thanks

CountFacula

a comment to the admin....I feel this thread should belong in the general OSX board, where I had orignally posted it..
I'm not a developer, I'm a user, but I do know the power of compiling and making your own software...
I know that there are other NonDevelopers that feel the same way as I do.
I run and use linux also, and to be honest I feel that apple has once again taken core features of an modern OS away from the users...as you have done with this thread.

I don't want to develop..I just want to make , make install 8)

thanks,

CountFacula

[sordid]

I'm not a developer either (personally I have no idea about unix dev). But anyway, its compiling stuff, and most topics relating to this have been in the osx developer forum.

Anyway, This is the Bourne shell script you need to execute once you have the Darwin Image mounted with disk copy. (Download that from apple)
http://www.macaddict.com/download/In...ompiler.tar.gz

Once you have got that and installed it, go to the /usr/bin directory and type "cp cc gcc" and most things should compile fine now.

Many libraries that you may need can be found on that softrack.stepwise.com site under mac osx, development libraries i think. Especially "ncurses" which is required for many terminal apps. (ie, you will get tgetent errors when compiling things like bitchx without it).

I'm having trouble getting the Darwin self-mounting-image to mount. I downloaded it fine in MacOS X, then Stuffit expander decodes the MacBinary
into an SMI file. But when I double-click on the SMI file (the Finder
lists it as an application), it fizzles out. A dialog box pops up, saying
"verifying Darwin" with a little meter going. When it completes, the
application icon disappears from the dock and there's no sign of any
mounted image anywhere. Anyone have an idea what's going wrong?

If you start the OSX version of Disk Copy, then drag the disk image to the Disk Copy window, it should mount fine. (just did this last night)

-chris

Originally posted by eray:
I'm having trouble getting the Darwin self-mounting-image to mount. I downloaded it fine in MacOS X, then Stuffit expander decodes the MacBinary
into an SMI file. But when I double-click on the SMI file (the Finder
lists it as an application), it fizzles out. A dialog box pops up, saying
"verifying Darwin" with a little meter going. When it completes, the
application icon disappears from the dock and there's no sign of any
mounted image anywhere. Anyone have an idea what's going wrong?

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http://www.mudduckdesign.com