[mikebeam]

Hello,
I'm interested in learning how to develop with WebObjects. I'm not sure how or where to get started. First, are there any WO tools included with the OS X Developer Tools? Are there any other websites i should check out for information. Anything would be helpful. Thanks
Mike

[Dalgo]

Well, there is Project Builder WO, which is part of the developer tools, and http://www.stepwise.com has some stuff on Web Objects in their articles. I don't know of much else since I don't make web sites and haven't looked into learning web objects for myself.

[DaGuy]

Check out:
http://www.info.apple.com/info.apple...t=macosxserver

You will find a very active webobject discussion group. You may want to consider aquiring the new version MacOS X Server which is supposed to see light some time after MacOS X.

[rmendis]

Originally posted by mikebeam:
First, are there any WO tools included with the OS X Developer Tools?

The supported WebObjects Development platforms are MacOS X Server and Windows NT/2000.

However, i expext this may change with the new WOF5 release hot on the heals of MacOS X (Server?).

In the meantime, do try out the Getting Started tutorials in the WebObjects Documentation and subscribe to webobjects-dev mailing list at Omni. http://www.omnigroup.com

Have fun,
ravi

[muchfresh]

I would wait until WebObjects 5.0. Apple already states that WO 5 will be ported to Java. WO 4.x projects written in obj-c will not be compatible with WO 5.0. WO 4.x apps written in Java can be *converted* to WO 5. I would take this to mean that there is some substantial changes other than Java-ization of WO. WO 5.0 should be out shortly after OSX, my guess at WWDC in may. So I say "why learn a product that may experience substantial and beneficial changes in the next two months".

[rmendis]

Originally posted by muchfresh:
WO 4.x apps written in Java can be *converted* to WO 5. I would take this to mean that there is some substantial changes other than Java-ization of WO.

Well, i suspect the WebObjects Java to change little if at all.
In fact i doubt any of the paradigms and design patterns to change at all.

(If so it would be a huge, almost undeliverable effort.
We wouldn't be seeing WOF5 this year let alone at WWDC.
In fact, apparently, WODev are mostly holding up for MacOS X Server)

If you've written WebObjects code in Objective-C and ported to Java
you will see how easy this is.
(Providing you don't rearchitect your code!)

The APIs are semantically identical (98%) e.g:

Java
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this.pageWithName("Main");

Obj-C
--------
[self pageWithName:@"Main"];

There is a fairly steep learning curve, i'm afraid.
So get a head start on WO Java ASAP.

It's definitely worth it.

ravi
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[This message has been edited by rmendis (edited 02-20-2001).]