[qnxde]

Just playing around in Photoshop in classic, and realised how useless and annoying the dock is while your classic app is in the foreground. The apps don't know to move out of the way of it, and you get all sorts of visual glitches and just general annoyances. What would be really cool is if someone could write a quick app/daemon which automatically hid the dock while Classic was in the foreground, to have it return again once you switch to an OS X app. Sounds pretty simple. What do you OS X developers think?

qnxde

[ToasterQuanta]

Great idea, actually.

I'd like to have this for both Classic and for rootless XDarwin/XFree86. Both ignore the dock, and neither really benefits from its presense, either.

Okay, so how does one programatically turn on and off Dock hiding? It should be possible -- the system preferences app seems to be able to tell the dock to show and hide itself in real time.

[MacGorilla]

While we're on it, I'd like an app that narrows the dock down but also makes it long..like the Windblows taskbar.

[Angus_D]

It's private functions in HIServices.framework

Frank Vercruesse reverse engineered them, they're like this:
extern Boolean CoreDockGetAutoHideEnabled( void );
extern void CoreDockSetAutoHideEnabled( Boolean );

I think that his project, ASM, might be able to do what you want already... http://asm.vercruesse.de/

[ToasterQuanta]

Originally posted by Angus_D:
<STRONG>I think that his project, ASM, might be able to do what you want already... http://asm.vercruesse.de/</STRONG>

Very cool. ASM does exactly what I want for XDarwin. Thanks for the tip!

Now to find a way to get it to disable the dock for ALL classic apps -- it seems only to work on specific apps.

[qnxde]

Hmm, I can't get the No Dock item to enable in ASM. It's always ghosted. Any help?

[Millennium]

A better idea, though certainly more difficult to write, would be to write an Extension for Classic. This would, in theory, detect when the user was booted into OSX, and then patch Classic's zoom code to make it respect the Dock. That way, you get the best of both worlds.

Mind you, this is likely to be nontrivial, to say the least. Not necessarily impossible, but not at all easy. And maybe it really wouldn't be possible; I don't know. Anyone have any ideas on that?

[sadie]

I don't think you're going to get people to put that much effort into a classic extension at this point. :-)

[Whisper]

Originally posted by Millennium:
<STRONG>A better idea, though certainly more difficult to write, would be to write an Extension for Classic. This would, in theory, detect when the user was booted into OSX, and then patch Classic's zoom code to make it respect the Dock. That way, you get the best of both worlds.

Mind you, this is likely to be nontrivial, to say the least. Not necessarily impossible, but not at all easy. And maybe it really wouldn't be possible; I don't know. Anyone have any ideas on that?</STRONG>

Would it be non-trivial? It seems like it should only be a few lines:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1"face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial">code:</font><HR><pre><font size=1 face=courier>
if(runningInClassic)
{
zoomSize = sreenSize - dockSize;
}
</font>[/code]

Ok, so that's definately way over simplified, but I'm not sure it would be as hard as you think. Not that I know exactly how to do it or anything...