[Nis]

how can i setup the web server on OS X to run ASP ?
and i need advice on how to begin writing ASP , any development enviorment available ?

thanks,
Nissan

To my knowledge ASP only runs server side on Microsoft IIS.

[gabrielf]

http://www.nodeworks.com/asp/

That's one of several asp modules for apache. I don't know how to use it but at least it is possible to use asp with apache so it should be possible to make it work on macos x I think. Anyone tried this?

Check out http://www.apache.org/related_projects.html for more modules and extensions to apache.

Good luck!

/Gabbe

Dont use ASP. Use PHP instead.

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[Kristoff]

ASP sucks.

Use JSP instead

[schizbot]

Whether or not JSP or ASP or PHP suck, does anyone have any idea how to install them?

I've seen a few items here and there, but nothing made me comfortable. Ideally, I'd love to be able to install JSP and not have to go through some non-HTTP port (i.e. 80). I know there are three ways to run Tomcat (http://jakarta.apache.org), but very little info on how to make it work seamlessly.

[Chaaaosss]

JSP on a Mac? JSPforMacs.com. That's all she wrote.

[genevish]

PHP (and MySQL) can be installed very easily:
http://homepage.mac.com/LightyearDes...cOSX/Packages/

-Scott

[bluedog]

I may be a bit out of my element here. I'm just starting with web scripting languages.

I've read about a server extension called TomCat that is supposed to do something like you desire. Its actually a JSP component for Apache.

jakarta.apache.org

Honestly I can't remember, but I thought there was a clean-room version of ASP that can run in Apache. It was written without any source from the ASP code used at Microsoft and should provide feature parity to the real thing. I'll do a search and see what I can find.

Back to the arguments. I've used PHP with great results! I've heard good things about JSP! And many people are using ASP!

Choose your own poison. Everybody deserves to die with dignity.

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[anothermacguy]

first, I suggest going to www.jspformacs.com

If you are asp savvy, but not so with php, go to bebits.com. This is a beos site, but there is a shell program called asp2php, which will convert your asp code to php. I just found this today, and will be trying to install it on X tonight. This will be of particular interest to the drumbeat/ultradev users out there, now running X.

I would also recommend installing BeOS on your old wintel machines, it brings them back to life, and doesn't require the special paritioning that linux needs. I just did this a few days ago, and I'm having a great time (of course OSX is still my favourite).

I thought I had something else to say, but I forget...take it easy.....anothermacguy

[iloveOSX]

go to php.net/support

look in the archives for asp. there is another tool that will covert your scripts. on the other hand if you have to use asp then there is a program that will do it but i don't know the name. i think it was chilisoft.com but sun may have bought them?? and if so they won't be spending too mcuh on keeping it alive

[rollerdexter]

I installed PHP4 in about 5 minutes, using the pkg listed in an earlier post. Using a MySQL book that had a few commands, I had a web page using PHP serving up info from my MySQL database in about 30 minutes of learning. Very cool. There also seems to be an option in the PHP settings which allows it to accept ASP tags, But I don't know anything about ASP (and don't want to)
I also installed Tomcat without a hitch. And it functions well as a standalone server for servlets, using port 8080. But I haven't tried to integrate it into Apache. I heard that's problematic at the moment. MacOSX beta is impressive for web design!!

[iloveOSX]

i agree. OSX is going to be a kick@ss web server platform.

[Baumi]

Originally posted by rollerdexter:
I also installed Tomcat without a hitch. And it functions well as a standalone server for servlets, using port 8080. But I haven't tried to integrate it into Apache. I heard that's problematic at the moment.

A colleague of mine got it working together with our Apache. There were two things to work around, IIRC.

For one thing, tomcat always wanted to run on port 8080 instead of port 80 (even though the latter is the standard port for web servers).

Also, tomcat uses either cookies or special URLs for session tracking, i.e. to recognize a given user as he moves from page to page within the site.

If cookies are turned off, the speical session URLs are used - and they tend to confuse Apache, because the have a semicolon - Apache doesn't take that too well.

I think he hacked the sources for both issues.

Baumi

[sordid]

It is possible.

Go to apache.org and go to the project "Apache::ASP"

You also need mod_perl.

There is a whole thing on it there. Though I myself use PHP and mysql, I think its also advantageous to learn ASP as well since its also very big scripting language.

[Kristoff]

Don't bother with ASP.
I have used ASP and JSP.
ASP is designed for Windows.
It allows you to use VBScript to manipulate ActiveX controls. Ok for Windows, but an attempt to port ASP to any other platform is missing the point all together.

Use JSP. It allows you to use Java to manipulate Java Beans which run on any platform. It is more powerful than simple scripting languages since you can have persistant objects on the server. This helps performance when making data bound applications. You will do yourself a favor by learning JSP instead.

[anothermacguy]

My philosophy in these issues, is that everyone has a personal preference. Professionally however, I like to make the best offer to a client based on their current config. This is why I feel one cannot simply say I hate Microsoft, or I hate Mac. I think personal preference should enter into it if on a fresh playing field, however unless you're dealing with a startup, you rarely have this opporutnity. I think its best to learn both sides of the equation.

Of course, if you are only developing for yourself, then hey I can see your point.