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What's wrong with 10.2(.1)?
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sra
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Sep 23, 2002, 11:19 AM
 
A copy of the OS X Server 10.2 upgrade finally arrived for my Xserve. It has been suggested that there are good reasons NOT to upgrade, and to stay at 10.1,5, but I can't find any indication of what those reasons are. If they're real, would someone please post a summary?

My desktop machine is about to become a 10.2 machine, and I know that the version of Server Monitor that runs on 10.1 will run but not connect from a 10.2 client machine to a 10.1 server. That alone makes me want to have both at the same version, but what else should I worry about?
     
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Sep 23, 2002, 05:21 PM
 
I've noticed a few things during my process of upgrading 10.1.4 Server to 10.2.1:

TROUBLES:
# They've completely changed DNS. My old files, are there, but non-functional. /etc/named.conf has been changed, and is completely different (at first glance) I think I'll try the Command Line utility that Help talks about (!). Since this only affects INTERNAL DNS, I'm unaffected externally. I just had to change my mail clients to use my server's IP instead of domain name. (small network, easily accomplished.)

# MAIL: Server Settings (old Server Admin) -> Mail -> Configure Host -> Outgoing Mail Tab.
Got switched to "Limit to Local Users". Had to switch back to "allow outgoing mail"

# Mail Authenticate error:
When my clients attempt to authenticate to send mail, I get the error:
"Server didn't recognize your password."
The SMTP in log on the server reads:
"<user> attempted to authenticate via CRAM-MD5 but failed.

My client is mail.app 10.1, and only authenticates via Password. So I tun on Authentication via 'PLAIN" and 'LOGIN'. No change. Except that the log now reads, "PLAIN" login failed.

I tried mail.app from 10.2, turned ON CRAM-MD5 auth, but it still didn't work. So somewhere along the line, my authentication got screwy.

My work around is that I allow relaying from my internal IPs, and I'll have to use a 3rd party SMTP server when sending mail from OUTSIDE my network.

NOTES:
# The built in help is pretty comprehensive.

#Server Settings
- Server Admin is now "Server Settings" slightly re-arranged
- Configure Mail Host Settings now lets you make a list for SMTP relay. No need to go to NetInfo to make the changes.
- DNS, Mail and AFP services start up much quicker than before (and I'm on a G3 400 upgrade card)
- AFP: Allows Guest Access with check box.
- FTP: check box to include/exclude Banner and Welcome message.
- FTP: Click button to edit Banner and Welcome message. No more need to edit file manually.
- FTP: Allow real users to view: "FTP root and share points" "home direcory with Share Points" or "Home direcotry only" If we set up "clients" as an ftp user, then they can view JUST the uploads/home direcotry. Nice.
- Mail: Show Mail status removed from Mail Service Pop-Up window. (Moved to Server Status)

#Workgroup Manager
- Create users/groups.
- Allows you to set permission/prefferences on a per user basis for Applications, Classic, Dock items/placement, Media Access Finder, Internet, Login, and printing. What a boon for Schools!
- New "group" for Computers. The group consists of each computer's MAC address. I don't know what this does yet. I bet it's for use with NetBoot.
- Set up Sharepoints.

#Server Status
- Overview of all running Services
- Graphs out loads
- Displays CPU usage and network traffic K/sec
- View logs
- View percentage and Quatas for disk space on mail accounts

If anyone has any other observations, PLEASE ADD! Also, I'm kinda curious about my Authentication errors, If anyone has any suggestions, I'm listening.

enjoy!
-GregM.
     
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Sep 23, 2002, 10:25 PM
 
DNS Update:

You don't have to change your db.127.0.0, db.domain, or db.192.168.1 files, only named.conf needs to be re-edited. (obviously, your files may have different names)

Also, they updated the DNS information in: /usr/share/named/examples
It's a big leap over what was included with 10.1

-GregM.
     
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Sep 27, 2002, 01:13 PM
 
3dAnimation:

About your mail authentication problem:

Make sure you made the server a password server too. Go into the utilities Folder and launch the Open directory wizard. When it asks put a dot next to is a password server and provides Password info to other nodes.
     
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Sep 29, 2002, 11:37 PM
 
On an NT network, would turning on the password server on OS X Server conflict with our windows PDC?
     
 
   
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