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May 23, 2002, 07:22 AM
 
I am looking at servers to host a mySQL database and apache. I was all for the xserve until i got shot down because it lasked ECC. Thus, it looks like we will be using a PC running some variant of Linux.

The reasoning is 1GB of RAM (what we wanted) supposedly produces 8 soft errors per month. Thus this can mean 8 invalid entries submitted into the database per month, whcih could mean 96 invalid entries per year. I didnt see any proof of these figures (all I have seen is 16MB = 1 error every 3 months), but I was shot down 2 to 1.

As a side note, does anyone have any comparisons of mysql running on OSX and Linux variants? I was also told that mySQL is much slower on X. I would love to show my coworkers up on this one.
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May 23, 2002, 09:10 AM
 
Well, first of all you need to tell us what type of environment you will be working with. MySQL is slower on X, but only slightly, and I wouldn't be surprised if this changed over the next six months.

Again, the Xserve isn't designed for mission critical environments. It's designed for highER end general web serving, print serving, email server etc. If you can't deal with 8 errors a month, then you need a different server. Remember, these are soft errors and don't necessarily mean that they will result in invalid entries.
     
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May 23, 2002, 10:28 AM
 
Originally posted by mitchell_pgh:
<STRONG>Well, first of all you need to tell us what type of environment you will be working with. MySQL is slower on X, but only slightly, and I wouldn't be surprised if this changed over the next six months.

Again, the Xserve isn't designed for mission critical environments. It's designed for highER end general web serving, print serving, email server etc. If you can't deal with 8 errors a month, then you need a different server. Remember, these are soft errors and don't necessarily mean that they will result in invalid entries.</STRONG>

I am in HiEd. I work with typical HiEd people who are set in their ways and with their brands. The system will be serving a work order system for connecting students to the university network. Names, numbers, locations, and current state of the jobs are being stored in the database.

My arguemnt was that we were not serving 1 million hits per day type scenario where it would be needed. We would be lucky to have 500 or so hits daily.
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May 23, 2002, 11:05 AM
 
Originally posted by metfoo:
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I am in HiEd. I work with typical HiEd people who are set in their ways and with their brands. The system will be serving a work order system for connecting students to the university network. Names, numbers, locations, and current state of the jobs are being stored in the database.

My arguemnt was that we were not serving 1 million hits per day type scenario where it would be needed. We would be lucky to have 500 or so hits daily.</STRONG>
Yup...you're swimming upstream here with fairly inflexible people. Good luck.
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May 23, 2002, 07:05 PM
 
I misread your question and posted something off topic.

Sorry


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May 24, 2002, 10:26 AM
 
Wait... these people are freaking out over a few soft errors per month and they're storing data in a non-ACID-compliant database?



That's like spending $1200 on a power conditioner for your eMachines tower...

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