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10.1.3 Apple Mail Server SMTP RELAY?
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Feb 23, 2002, 03:22 PM
 
Hi,

I am wondering if anyone has been able to get the SMTP relay limiting options to work as advertised.

In my experience, the SMTP Authentication feature, disable mails from the internet at large and generates a 503 error (authentication required) for inbound mail,effectively making the mail server worthless. While the limited relay list appears to do nothing, as I can still send mail through my server from unlisted IP's.

I would love to hear that SOMEONE has this working properly and is able to pass the ORDB.org spamtest, so that I know it's something that I'm doing wrong.

Marty
     
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Feb 23, 2002, 06:47 PM
 
Originally posted by mjoecups:
<STRONG>Hi,

I am wondering if anyone has been able to get the SMTP relay limiting options to work as advertised.

In my experience, the SMTP Authentication feature, disable mails from the internet at large and generates a 503 error (authentication required) for inbound mail,effectively making the mail server worthless. While the limited relay list appears to do nothing, as I can still send mail through my server from unlisted IP's.

I would love to hear that SOMEONE has this working properly and is able to pass the ORDB.org spamtest, so that I know it's something that I'm doing wrong.

Marty</STRONG>
I'm on a couple of OS X server lists (Apple's & Omni Group's) and so far, it would appear that it does indeed behave the way you described. Maybe someone will find the magic combination that makes it all work.

Maybe one day, someone at Apple will wake up and get a clue about their mail server.
     
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Feb 24, 2002, 04:29 AM
 
Hi Again,

I actually have the restricted relay option working now and have passed the ORDB.org spam test.

My advice... Follow the Knowledge base directions with insane precision. At one point it tells you to save the Netinfo data and the QUIT Netinfo. I'm not sure if I was quitting before, or why you'd have to.

Also, I reconfigured my MX records as the menandmice.com domain monitoring service informed me my MX record was broken. The mail server had been sending and receiving fine, but who knows.

Apple should deliver server software that brings Mac ease of use, not go backwards toward the Unix command line. If we wanted to deal with command line, text edited sendmail style configuration, we'd be using Linux. It's free and runs on el cheapo hardware.

Marty
     
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Feb 24, 2002, 01:56 PM
 
Here's a message I got from a mailing list. I'm currently rebuilding my server (just installed a new HD), so I haven't had a chance to test it out.

Hey all,

OK I think I got this figured out.

The problem is that if you enable both features all incoming mail will be
required to be authenticated, obviously this is a problem, since most if not
all of your incoming mail for local users is going to be rejected.

So after two days a banging my head I finally got it to work (I think). I'm
not sure why this works but it does. Just go back and change
smtp_plain_login_flag to 0, save the changes, restart Apple Mail. (make
sure you have open_relay_addr_flag set to 1)

Now if you have your "mail client" still setup to authenticate you should be
able to send mail, once you turn it off you will get a relaying denied
message.

Best of all, incoming local mail will be delivered to the perspective user.
     
 
   
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