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JeremyS · Aug 8, 2003, 07:40 PM

Just by watching the Quick Tour and seeing it's interface it looks like DVD Studio Pro 2 is one of the best designed apps EVER!!

I mean the bar set by Apple with this software is crazy, other companies better step their game up!!

Gul Banana · Aug 8, 2003, 07:42 PM

Well, "killer" is not an adjective. However, I do think that it looks like a very impressive program.

Adam Betts · Aug 8, 2003, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by JeremyS:
Just by watching the Quick Tour and seeing it's interface it looks like DVD Studio Pro 2 is one of the best designed apps EVER!!

I mean the bar set by Apple with this software is crazy, other companies better step their game up!!

Yep, one of the best "professional" theme. I hope they'll have an option to allow developer to add it to their app (ie: Brushed Metal). Photoshop, etc could use this kind of interface.

Lordx_ · Aug 8, 2003, 08:50 PM

Maya needs a DVDSP type UI. It has way too much white.

Nonsuch · Aug 8, 2003, 08:59 PM

Originally posted by Gul Banana:
Well, "killer" is not an adjective.

Where've you been?

jaske · Aug 8, 2003, 09:28 PM

Originally posted by Gul Banana:
Well, "killer" is not an adjective. However, I do think that it looks like a very impressive program.

Well "Gul" . . . you dumb ass . . . killer is an adjective for two reasons: 1) 'cuz folks use it as such. I mean, do you think language is beholden to your conceptions of appropriateness, etc.?

2) Those authorities at Bartleby/American Heritage . . . they disagree with you, and that must account for something. See here

ADJECTIVE:
1. Causing death or destruction: killer floods. 2. Slang Having impressive or effective power or impact; formidable: had a killer smile; made killer profits.

Ok, "Gul" . . . attack, defend, blah blah blah you dumb ass mother ****er

MaxPower2k3 · Aug 8, 2003, 10:06 PM

jesus jaske, a little harsh there.

Adam Betts · Aug 8, 2003, 10:59 PM

Originally posted by jaske:
Well "Gul" . . . you dumb ass . . . killer is an adjective for two reasons: 1) 'cuz folks use it as such. I mean, do you think language is beholden to your conceptions of appropriateness, etc.?

2) Those authorities at Bartleby/American Heritage . . . they disagree with you, and that must account for something. See here

<snip>

Ok, "Gul" . . . attack, defend, blah blah blah you dumb ass mother ****er

Don't be a "killer"

Superchicken · Aug 9, 2003, 06:13 AM

Originally posted by jaske:
Well "Gul" . . . you dumb ass . . . killer is an adjective for two reasons: 1) 'cuz folks use it as such. I mean, do you think language is beholden to your conceptions of appropriateness, etc.?

2) Those authorities at Bartleby/American Heritage . . . they disagree with you, and that must account for something. See here

ADJECTIVE:
1. Causing death or destruction: killer floods. 2. Slang Having impressive or effective power or impact; formidable: had a killer smile; made killer profits.

Ok, "Gul" . . . attack, defend, blah blah blah you dumb ass mother ****er

That time of the month?

And yeah I think Apple should deffinately look into allowing pro apps to take on the new pro theam.

version · Aug 9, 2003, 06:37 AM

It does look good, can't wait to get my mitts on it.

Gul Banana · Aug 9, 2003, 09:08 AM

Originally posted by jaske:
Fightin' words

I agree; you are right and I am wrong. Evidently, the author of this topic was suggesting that DVD Studio Pro 2 looks like it will cause death and destruction. I apologise for forgetting that usage of the word.

:XI: · Aug 9, 2003, 03:02 PM

Originally posted by Gul Banana:
I agree; you are right and I am wrong. Evidently, the author of this topic was suggesting that DVD Studio Pro 2 looks like it will cause death and destruction. I apologise for forgetting that usage of the word.

2. Slang Having impressive or effective power or impact; formidable: had a killer smile; made killer profits.

That speed reading course you took? Get a refund.

spookymulder · Aug 9, 2003, 07:06 PM

I still think that DVDSP is too complex to use and lacking in features for interactivity and motion graphics compared to say macromedia Director. Although I think DVDSP is a good product with potential I have the horrible feeling that apple as usual will rest on their laurels and let macromedia's Director blow DVDSP away in the future.

Gavin · Aug 10, 2003, 12:07 AM

You're all wrong.

The statement was: [it] looks KILLER!

'killer' here is used as an ADVERB not an adjective.

So we're not talking about

'She has a killer smile'

but

'She smiles killer'.

That ain't english boys. It's back to 7th grade for all of you.

xi_hyperon · Aug 10, 2003, 12:17 AM

Oh lordy, this place never changes. BOT, DVDSP2 interface looks very similar to the interface in Soundtrack, which I like. I would assume this look will carry over into FCP and FCE at some point.

Phoenix1701 · Aug 10, 2003, 12:54 AM

Originally posted by Gavin:
You're all wrong.

The statement was: [it] looks KILLER!

'killer' here is used as an ADVERB not an adjective.

So we're not talking about

'She has a killer smile'

but

'She smiles killer'.

That ain't english boys. It's back to 7th grade for all of you.

Actually, it is an adjective: a predicate adjective. The sentence is actually implied to be, "it looks [such that it is] killer." You use these sorts of adjectives after verbs like is, feel, look, smell, taste, seem, appear, and sound. "Smile" is different, so in your example sentence killer would, indeed, be an adverb.

Ye tapdancing gods, what am I doing...?

Uh... carry on. I'll be over in the corner where it's safe!

Zimphire · Aug 10, 2003, 01:00 AM

Yeah it does look killer.

I am happy with the way I have Panther now.

And I don't mind the brushed metal at all.

Gul Banana · Aug 10, 2003, 05:52 AM

Originally posted by :XI::
That speed reading course you took? Get a refund.

Unfortunately, I don't speak Slang

Originally posted by Gavin
You're all wrong.

The statement was: [it] looks KILLER!

'killer' here is used as an ADVERB not an adjective.

So we're not talking about

'She has a killer smile'

but

'She smiles killer'.

That ain't english boys. It's back to 7th grade for all of you.

The meaning, then, being "DVD Studio Pro looks in a killer way"? Further interpreted, "DVD Studio Pro looks in a way that causes death and destruction," or, in Slanglish, "DVD Studio Pro looks in a way that is impressive".

I prefer to credit the original poster with slightly more of an intention to make sense.

/me stops grammar-trolling

LightWaver-67 · Aug 10, 2003, 09:32 AM

You've GOT to be kidding me...

Gul Banana · Aug 10, 2003, 09:57 AM

Originally posted by LightWaver-67:
You've GOT to be kidding me...

Incidentally, I know it's very common usage, but it still seems strange to me that people say "you have got" when they mean "you must". What does the past tense of a synonym for "acquire" have to do with imperative action? Then again, "you have" on its own has been used to mean "you must" for even longer, and that makes even less sense. One possible explanation is that the addressee is "possessed of the need to" do the thing in question. Now that I think about it, that's actually quite plausible, as in Latin (and modern-day Italian), they say "tu hai bisogno di whateverare" - "you have need of whatevering" ("di," of, of course, being a common substitute for the English "to" in Romance languages).

LightWaver-67 · Aug 10, 2003, 10:26 AM

Did I accidentally stumble into forums.GrammarNN.com ?

Gee-Man · Aug 10, 2003, 01:28 PM

Originally posted by spookymulder:
I still think that DVDSP is too complex to use and lacking in features for interactivity and motion graphics compared to say macromedia Director. Although I think DVDSP is a good product with potential I have the horrible feeling that apple as usual will rest on their laurels and let macromedia's Director blow DVDSP away in the future.

I don't understand the comparison you're making here. Director is designed for creating general interactive multimedia for CD-ROM or DVD-ROM or the web or whatever. DVDSP is designed specifically for making standard DVDs that play with regular DVD players, not DVD-ROMs or computer-based multimedia. It's not supposed to be for motion graphics, either - DVDSP isn't supposed to replace Flash or After Effects, you import movies from those programs into DVDSP, not create it.

I don't know why you'd think that Director will blow DVDSP away in the future when they aren't even competing with each other at all, and aren't meant to. Unless Director is planning on making their program into a DVD-authoring program in the future like Encore or DVDSP.

Adam Betts · Aug 10, 2003, 03:02 PM

Originally posted by spookymulder:
I still think that DVDSP is too complex to use and lacking in features for interactivity and motion graphics compared to say macromedia Director. Although I think DVDSP is a good product with potential I have the horrible feeling that apple as usual will rest on their laurels and let macromedia's Director blow DVDSP away in the future.

Wow, you couldn't be any more wrong.

http://www.apple.com/dvdstudiopro/

Tip: Read carefully

iFix Rene · Aug 11, 2003, 10:17 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Yeah it does look killer.

I am happy with the way I have Panther now.

And I don't mind the brushed metal at all.

how do you have panther now (look?)

swiz · Aug 11, 2003, 11:38 PM

Originally posted by Gee-Man:

I don't understand the comparison you're making here. Director is designed for creating general interactive multimedia for CD-ROM or DVD-ROM or the web or whatever. DVDSP is designed specifically for making standard DVDs that play with regular DVD players, not DVD-ROMs or computer-based multimedia. It's not supposed to be for motion graphics, either - DVDSP isn't supposed to replace Flash or After Effects, you import movies from those programs into DVDSP, not create it.

I don't know why you'd think that Director will blow DVDSP away in the future when they aren't even competing with each other at all, and aren't meant to. Unless Director is planning on making their program into a DVD-authoring program in the future like Encore or DVDSP.

Seconded. sheesh...

Zimphire · Aug 12, 2003, 12:18 AM

Originally posted by iFix Rene:
how do you have panther now (look?)

Just like Panther, but with no stripes.

ASIMO · Aug 12, 2003, 06:39 PM

Originally posted by Gul Banana:
Incidentally, I know it's very common usage, but it still seems strange to me that people say "you have got" when they mean "you must". What does the past tense of a synonym for "acquire" have to do with imperative action? Then again, "you have" on its own has been used to mean "you must" for even longer, and that makes even less sense. One possible explanation is that the addressee is "possessed of the need to" do the thing in question. Now that I think about it, that's actually quite plausible, as in Latin (and modern-day Italian), they say "tu hai bisogno di whateverare" - "you have need of whatevering" ("di," of, of course, being a common substitute for the English "to" in Romance languages).

If you append "to" in "you have" example, it does at least sound more feasibly correct. "You have to...blah blah blah."

And your Italian example goes hand in hand with the French "...tu as besoin de..." So perhaps you are onto something. My golly! I think you've got it!