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desi · Aug 16, 2003, 05:06 PM

anybody here have problems when using netscape 7? I find it very sensitive as it may just crash upon opening a lot, particularly when the computer has been on for a while, and the computer will have to be restarted just to get it to work. anyone know what the problem is? do you think it's netscape's problem or the computer? any info into this would be of great help. thanks.

also, I don't know if this is important or coincidence, but netscape seems to crash alot if a microsft program has been open for a while. I don't think they like each other.

Adam Betts · Aug 16, 2003, 05:19 PM

Didn't you heard that Netscape died a few weeks ago?

You should use Mozilla from now on. Netscape is based on Mozilla engine.

ambush · Aug 16, 2003, 05:26 PM

Originally posted by desi:
anybody here have problems when using netscape 7? I find it very sensitive as it may just crash upon opening a lot, particularly when the computer has been on for a while, and the computer will have to be restarted just to get it to work. anyone know what the problem is? do you think it's netscape's problem or the computer? any info into this would be of great help. thanks.

also, I don't know if this is important or coincidence, but netscape seems to crash alot if a microsft program has been open for a while. I don't think they like each other.

Just want to make sure: do you run Mac OS X?

Sage · Aug 16, 2003, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by ambush:
Just want to make sure: do you run Mac OS X?

Heh heh.

desi - FYI about the comments... Netscape is a dead duck, and has pretty much been hated with great emotion by most people since NS 6... it's on the verge of being worthless, and many web designers don't even care about coding for Netscape anymore. If you're using OS X, you'd best try out Apple's own Safari, Mozilla (if you just have to have a near-Netscape experience), or Camino (a lightweight relative of Mozilla), or OmniWeb if you don't mind paying for a web browser. (IE for Mac is also dead now... M$ called it off some time ago).

JLL · Aug 16, 2003, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by Sage:
Netscape is a dead duck, and has pretty much been hated with great emotion by most people since NS 6... it's on the verge of being worthless, and many web designers don't even care about coding for Netscape anymore. If you're using OS X, you'd best try out Apple's own Safari, Mozilla (if you just have to have a near-Netscape experience), or Camino (a lightweight relative of Mozilla), or OmniWeb if you don't mind paying for a web browser. (IE for Mac is also dead now... M$ called it off some time ago).

Um, there's no difference in coding for NS7 and coding for Mozilla.

Btw. IE for Windows is also dead.

desi · Aug 16, 2003, 05:39 PM

yeah, i know it's no more, but I use it for certain sites that just don't show up right on communicator or IE, so I'm forced to use it. though I will probably check out mozilla. also opera is alright, but the same sites still have a problem�like ESPN. and i too have a strong hate for netscape. also IE. they're all hunks of filth, what else can you say.

ambush · Aug 16, 2003, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by Sage:
...or OmniWeb if you don't mind paying for a web browser.

You need to get a clue. OmniWeb is free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You pay for it if you think it deserves your bux.

ambush · Aug 16, 2003, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by JLL:
Um, there's no difference in coding for NS7 and coding for Mozilla.

Btw. IE for Windows is also dead.

IE for Windows is dead? Since when? Since it's the most used browser?

JLL · Aug 16, 2003, 05:43 PM

Originally posted by desi:
yeah, i know it's no more, but I use it for certain sites that just don't show up right on communicator or IE

Now I want to ask you too: do you use Mac OS X?

JLL · Aug 16, 2003, 05:46 PM

Originally posted by ambush:
IE for Windows is dead? Since when? Since it's the most used browser?

Since around the same time they dumped the Mac version.

IE for Windows has been just as neglected as the Mac version, and there will not be a new version.

The MS web browser will now be an integrated part of Longhorn, and MS also have their MSN Explorer which is still active (and costs money).

MSN Explorer exists on both Mac and Windows, and the next version allows other than MSN customers to buy and use it (why they would do that I don't know

).

desi · Aug 16, 2003, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by JLL:
Now I want to ask you too: do you use Mac OS X?

yeah, I forgot to add what OS: 9.1

Adam Betts · Aug 16, 2003, 05:55 PM

Originally posted by desi:
yeah, I forgot to add what OS: 9.1

OS 9.1 is as dead as Netscape 7

Go buy OS X

desi · Aug 16, 2003, 06:30 PM

Originally posted by Adam Betts:
OS 9.1 is as dead as Netscape 7

Go buy OS X

Even if i had the money I would not buy OSX unless I had to get a new machine. I find OSX ugly. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way. I guess apple tried to make it (the interface) look too sleek and realistic. In the end you have something that lacks individualty, or perhaps as some would call it 'soul'. It is like the way a lot of CGI looks and feels. In the end, I'll be forced to use it. Since I don't have the money I just have to make due with what I have.

Art Vandelay · Aug 16, 2003, 06:36 PM

If you have an OS X capable Mac, then at least update to 9.2.2.

Sarc · Aug 16, 2003, 06:37 PM

Originally posted by Adam Betts:
OS 9.1 is as dead as Netscape 7

Go buy OS X

I second that, with OS X you can still use crappy Netscape 7, but at least it won't crash the whole system when it goes down

desi · Aug 16, 2003, 06:39 PM

Originally posted by Art Vandelay:
If you have an OS X capable Mac, then at least update to 9.2.2.

I don't trust updates, but thanks anyhow.

Art Vandelay · Aug 16, 2003, 06:42 PM

Originally posted by desi:
I don't trust updates, but thanks anyhow.

Then why are you using Netscape 7 or even OS 9.1 for that matter?

Developer · Aug 16, 2003, 06:49 PM

For Mac OS 9 development of Mozilla (and therewith Netscape) has stopped at 1.2.1. It's probably the best browser you can get for that OS, so you should give it a try.

I don't remember any problems with 9.2 but I also don't remember a compelling reason to upgrade if 9.1 is working fine for you.

desi · Aug 16, 2003, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by Art Vandelay:
Then why are you using Netscape 7 or even OS 9.1 for that matter?

I don't like OS updates, and netscape was a full download. I have 9.1 because photoshop, illustrator, and quark need it, otherwise I wouldn't use 9.1. I'd prefer not to use an update of 9.1, but in my line of work I need to. Updates are free and money is tight. You make adjustments when you have to.

desi · Aug 17, 2003, 08:11 AM

Originally posted by Developer:
For Mac OS 9 development of Mozilla (and therewith Netscape) has stopped at 1.2.1. It's probably the best browser you can get for that OS, so you should give it a try.

I don't remember any problems with 9.2 but I also don't remember a compelling reason to upgrade if 9.1 is working fine for you.

thanks for the tip! salud.

fat mac moron · Aug 17, 2003, 08:26 AM

Originally posted by Developer:
For Mac OS 9 development of Mozilla (and therewith Netscape) has stopped at 1.2.1. It's probably the best browser you can get for that OS, so you should give it a try.

Check out http://wamcom.org/ for continued Mozilla development for OS 8.6 - 9. As of now, they are up to 1.3.1 according to the web page.

desi · Aug 17, 2003, 09:26 AM

Originally posted by fat mac moron:
Check out http://wamcom.org/ for continued Mozilla development for OS 8.6 - 9. As of now, they are up to 1.3.1 according to the web page.

thanks.

Sage · Aug 17, 2003, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by ambush:
You need to get a clue. OmniWeb is free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You pay for it if you think it deserves your bux.

(Moot point now that we know he doesn't use OS X, but anyway):

Yes, I'm well aware of that... would it be unfair to assumed that if he tried it out and liked it, he'd pay the license fee? Sheesh.