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m.brown · Sep 17, 2003, 05:14 PM

I was browsing Mike Matas's website and came across an icon for what looks like a new XHTML editor by a company called Talacia software.

Talacia's website contains nothing - so does anyone know anything about Tag?

Will there finally be a good XHMTL editor for OS X?

iOliverC · Sep 17, 2003, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by m.brown:
I was browsing Mike Matas's website and came across an icon for what looks like a new XHTML editor by a company called Talacia software.

Talacia's website contains nothing - so does anyone know anything about Tag?

Will there finally be a good XHMTL editor for OS X?

Hi there :-)

I'm actually the developer of Tag, and progress thus far from Tag has been going well. Tag will be a fully Cocoa HTML editor with all the dooda's you've come to expect from a html editor (syntax highlighting etc) and more powerful features.

It does contain live preview, so you can see your code appear instantly in rendered-form.

Anyway, below is a screenshot to keep you going till its released, which should be around Panther time.

Click Here To See

CharlesS · Sep 17, 2003, 06:41 PM

Originally posted by iOliverC:
Hi there :-)

I'm actually the developer of Tag, and progress thus far from Tag has been going well. Tag will be a fully Cocoa HTML editor with all the dooda's you've come to expect from a html editor (syntax highlighting etc) and more powerful features.

It does contain live preview, so you can see your code appear instantly in rendered-form.

Anyway, below is a screenshot to keep you going till its released, which should be around Panther time.

Click Here To See

So this is a source editor, not a WYSIWYG? Looks nice.

iOliverC · Sep 18, 2003, 01:27 AM

Originally posted by CharlesS:
So this is a source editor, not a WYSIWYG? Looks nice.

Its kinda a mix between WYSIWYG and source editing because you can see what you have updated every time you edit.

m.brown · Sep 18, 2003, 01:56 AM

Originally posted by iOliverC:
Its kinda a mix between WYSIWYG and source editing because you can see what you have updated every time you edit.

I'm really looking forward to seeing this - do let us know when it is available.

Any other screenshots would be great too!

Oh and if you need beta testers - do drop me a line.

Best wishes,

Mike

iOliverC · Sep 18, 2003, 02:06 AM

I'll take and take some more screenshots tonight if I have some time free...is anyone here interested in Regex searching?

Xeo · 02:25 AM

So does your rendering use WebCore? If so,

Regex search and replace would be nice. I use it quite frequently in BBEdit to make changes to a bunch of similar lines of code at a time.

REZN8 · Sep 18, 2003, 05:49 AM

It looks interesting, would love to try it out once it's released. As someone else mentioned, will it be using WebCore?

ambush · Sep 18, 2003, 06:18 AM

I donno about tag but I always use

SubEthaEdit (Was Hydra)

now that it has WebCore live previewing. It's a very good source editor. It also has syntax colouring and eXtreme Programming support via TCP or Rendezvous.

Best of all, it's free.

http://www.codingmonkeys.de/subethaedit/

Xeo · Sep 18, 2003, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by ambush:
I donno about tag but I always use

SubEthaEdit (Was Hydra)

now that it has WebCore live previewing. It's a very good source editor. It also has syntax colouring and eXtreme Programming support via TCP or Rendezvous.

Best of all, it's free.

http://www.codingmonkeys.de/subethaedit/

Wow, looks nice.

iOliverC · Sep 18, 2003, 12:20 PM

Yup it uses WebCore, why wouldnt it?

ambush · Sep 18, 2003, 02:04 PM

There's also OmniWeb's editor

:dragonflypro: · Sep 18, 2003, 03:55 PM

BBE, while super powerful is up against a wall.

Live preview in Hydra absolutely ROCKS!

BBE is gonna need it.

This may be the opportunity for Tag to jump in an steal thunder!

The deal breaker would be intelligent implementation of keystrokes for inline content tags (img src=, table values, etc) with file selector dialogs (for us unorganized 'forgot where the file is or was named' types')... something Hydra lacks

T

WJMoore · Sep 18, 2003, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by ambush:
I donno about tag but I always use

SubEthaEdit (Was Hydra)

now that it has WebCore live previewing. It's a very good source editor. It also has syntax colouring and eXtreme Programming support via TCP or Rendezvous.

Best of all, it's free.

http://www.codingmonkeys.de/subethaedit/

Yep I'm a recent convert. I sent some feedback to the developers and got a very prompt reply. They are working on version 2 which will add more nice features. Like customised settings for each file type.

WJMoore · Sep 18, 2003, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by iOliverC:
Yup it uses WebCore, why wouldnt it?

Just checked out your screen shot. Are you sure it is a good idea to have the source and preview as one window? Seems like it could restrict getting an overall preview of the page, although that might be better off done via a preview in browser feature. Oh and if you could do some L337 scroll synchronisation between the two views that would be cool. Just random thoughts

iOliverC · Sep 19, 2003, 01:24 AM

Originally posted by WJMoore:
Just checked out your screen shot. Are you sure it is a good idea to have the source and preview as one window? Seems like it could restrict getting an overall preview of the page, although that might be better off done via a preview in browser feature. Oh and if you could do some L337 scroll synchronisation between the two views that would be cool. Just random thoughts

No need to worry

, if you click on the browser-like toolbar button, a window dedicated to preview will appear.

ambush · Sep 19, 2003, 05:55 AM

Originally posted by WJMoore:
Yep I'm a recent convert. I sent some feedback to the developers and got a very prompt reply. They are working on version 2 which will add more nice features. Like customised settings for each file type.

Wow, talk about good news.

Is tag going to be free?

iOliverC · Sep 19, 2003, 09:41 AM

Originally posted by ambush:
Wow, talk about good news.

Is tag going to be free?

Unfortunately, no. I do not see how the SubEthaEdit Team survive with it being freeware

m.brown · Sep 19, 2003, 09:44 AM

Originally posted by iOliverC:
Unfortunately, no. I do not see how the SubEthaEdit Team survive with it being freeware

I think SubEthaEdit was a student project.

I'd glady pay if it's a good XHTML editor.

How will CSS be handled? As I really like CSSEdit and wondered if there would be any integration?

Obviously don't give all your secrets away ;-)

Cheers

iOliverC · Sep 19, 2003, 09:51 AM

What do you mean by intergration? Would you mean simple, click this and it'll open CSSEdit? Or more advanced?

m.brown · Sep 19, 2003, 09:59 AM

Originally posted by iOliverC:
What do you mean by intergration? Would you mean simple, click this and it'll open CSSEdit? Or more advanced?

Well it depends on how much CSS support Tag has (or will have) - will users code it all by hand or will there be some sort of CSSEdit like features?

It seems to me that here we have two potentially superb applications for XHTML and CSS coding - some sort of synergy between the two would be great.

Cheers.

iOliverC · Sep 19, 2003, 10:08 AM

Integration in some shape of form could be included in Tag 1.0 with CSSEdit, but I'm not making *any* promises. I actually know the developer of CSSEdit so I will have a talk with him. I'd be interested to hear your opinions on how Tag and CSSEdit could be integrated.

york28 · Sep 19, 2003, 01:36 PM

One feature that I wish some html editors had was the ability to intellegently colorize syntax. For example, if I am working on a PHP document, all of the PHP will be properly colorized, but if I also include standard html, the html will not be colored. I know that this issue is in SubEthaEdit. I haven't tried a lot of other programs, since this isn't a big deal and I don't generally have a lot of static html in my PHP, but it's something I'd like to see nonetheless.