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I'm looking for a more advanced piece of mail software as I have difficulty sending attachments to AOL users and PC's. I've tried Mailsmith for a few days and it is powerful, with many tweaks, etc. But, is it worth 99USD?
I've checked out previous posts on the subject of e-mailers and Mailsmith doesn't seem to be widely used: Mail and Entourage appear the favourites.
What's the deal here?
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Peter
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Originally posted by Hamgard:
I'm looking for a more advanced piece of mail software as I have difficulty sending attachments to AOL users and PC's. I've tried Mailsmith for a few days and it is powerful, with many tweaks, etc. But, is it worth 99USD?
I've checked out previous posts on the subject of e-mailers and Mailsmith doesn't seem to be widely used: Mail and Entourage appear the favourites.
What's the deal here?
Thanks
Peter
The lack of IMAP support is a deal killer for me.
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After Mail and Entourage, Eudora seems to be the third favorite. I know I use it, along with Mail for the time being. It is actually even more advanced than Mail in terms of features.
For example, its the only client that will allow you to specify a specific time to send an email. Great feature if you're writing a business email in the middle of the night, but want it to automatically send out first thing in the morning.
Its also free if you don't mind a small ads window.
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Mailsmith's worth it for me. I've tried all of the other options, and none of them have as much power and flexibility. The best thing about BareBones' apps is you can configure them endlessly. I never use them with their default settings. Also, they're very strict about following Apple's guidelines for interfaces and usability.
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Mailsmith puts all your mail into one big database file, which means that if it gets corrupted you lose everything. I got burned with this using Entourage a couple of years ago. Presumably, when you get lots of e-mail, this file is being written to much more often than 'normal' files, so the chance of corruption must be increased.
I am sure lots of people use Mailsmith successfully, but for me, the 'one big file' issue was a deal breaker.
I use Mail, despite its slow slow searching. I keep wanting to go back to Eudora, but the integration of Mail with Address Book and other system things make me stick with Mail.
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...the 'one big file' issue was a deal breaker
Maybe I'm missing something, but... if you use Mail, all of the mail in your inbox is in "one big file" - INBOX.mbox > mbox -
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Originally posted by philm:
Mailsmith puts all your mail into one big database file, which means that if it gets corrupted you lose everything.
Actually, that's not entirely correct. Each mailbox is it's own database. So you have a separate database for each box. Still more prone to corruption than Eudora, but if you do experience corruption, it will only affect that specific mailbox.
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I would hold off on that purchase if I were you. I haven't played with Panther, but I hear Mail.app will have some nice enhancements, and as mentioned before, Address Book integration, Exchange support, etc.. $99 for a mail client or $129 for Panther? Hmmm...yep, choose Panther. Try Mail.app again then and if you still don't like it give a free mail application a try. Eudora is free and fast, but not something I've taken a liking to. However, the much underrated Thunderbird from the Mozilla project is rather nice. It's also free and includes spam filtering, the free version of Eudora doesn't. Thunderbird offers IMAP support too. I actually like it better than any other mail app I've tried, but I'm sticking to Mail.app to see what is offered in Panther.
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I haven't played with Mailsmith for a while, but my biggest complaints were no HTML mail support (even though I have it turned off, it should be an option) and I thought it was ugly. This really matters to me as I stare at my email app for quite a few hours a day.
That was back at version 1.x, so maybe it is better.
the monotlithic database is a non-issue for me. Outlook Express and Entourage have database management tools that should be run once in a while, and well, I'm sure we all know that backups are a good idea...
But 100 USD is good for many other things...
Like an iSight!
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Thanks very much for everybody's advice. I've downloaded TBird and I'll check it out, but I'll probably hang on for Panther to see what happens.
Appreciatively,
Peter 
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As long as Panther Mail still uses an unwieldy drawer to access the mailboxes, I'll stay away. My main problems with Mail: it inexplicably quits on me often, especially once my mailboxes get large, sometimes messages seem to disappear, it has trouble saving messages as plaintext (it tends to write-over messages with the same subject without warning), its filtering options are weak, and its spam filter is worse than SpamSieve. It's not good at sending attachments and it freezes if someone sends me an email with lots of large in-line images. Also it's not very scriptable. Finally, it has lots of strange, repetitive automatic boxes which I never got the hang of (what's INBOX for when it's always empty and there are Inboxes under each of my accounts?).
I like that Mailsmith doesn't display HTML. It integrates with Apple's Address Book and SpamSieve (which comes free). Finally, once you set up your accounts, just keep the mail browser window open and it looks like any other mail client.
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Originally posted by IronPen:
I would hold off on that purchase if I were you. I haven't played with Panther, but I hear Mail.app will have some nice enhancements, and as mentioned before, Address Book integration, Exchange support, etc.. $99 for a mail client or $129 for Panther? Hmmm...yep, choose Panther. Try Mail.app again then and if you still don't like it give a free mail application a try. Eudora is free and fast, but not something I've taken a liking to. However, the much underrated Thunderbird from the Mozilla project is rather nice. It's also free and includes spam filtering, the free version of Eudora doesn't. Thunderbird offers IMAP support too. I actually like it better than any other mail app I've tried, but I'm sticking to Mail.app to see what is offered in Panther.
Thanks for the Tbird tip. I've set it up for my accounts and it's very nice. Just that extra touch of sophistication I was looking for. Cheers.
BTW can you set it up to show that new mail has arrived when it's sitting in the dock? Mail shows numbers in the top right corner.
Thanks
Peter
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