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So where's Keynote 2.0?
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Jan 6, 2004, 11:41 PM
 
When it's out, I'll buy it.

I was kinda hoping for it at this MWSF 2004, but no dice.
     
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Jan 7, 2004, 12:01 AM
 
Maybe in a few weeks. Sometimes Apple doesn't want to show everything in just one day.

At least we can hope .
     
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Jan 7, 2004, 12:08 AM
 
one year is a rather short development cycle especially for a big app that is intended to compete with power point. They can get away with it for the iApps but probably not here...

I'd wager a new version will show up in about 6-12 months.
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Jan 7, 2004, 01:07 AM
 
What is wrong with 1.0? I really don't know, don't use it.
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Jan 7, 2004, 09:26 AM
 
Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
What is wrong with 1.0? I really don't know, don't use it.
1.1 now actually. It's pretty good, esp. for a version 1, but it seems rough around the edges. Here are a few random comments:

1) In presentation mode during transitions the image gets all garbled on my TiBook. After the transition is over it reverts back to normal though. Fortunately, the actual presentation on the external screen isn't garbled.
2) There is no slide tiling view like in iPhoto or PowerPoint. It makes it very hard to look at all the slides for organizing them when you have a big presentation. There is only the single column view.
3) Import and export for PowerPoint files isn't so great. My PowerPoint files are basically useless for importing into Keynote most of the time. Export to PowerPoint ain't great either, but that's not a big deal to me because I generally export to PDF for distribution. (I don't like giving out my raw PowerPoint files.)
4) Navigation is a wonky - unintuitive in some areas and thus un-Mac like.
5) Tabbing to get subheadings doesn't change the font size and AFAIK there isn't a setting to do this. This looks very odd and I manually have to reduce the font size for subheadings.
6) Imported images should have an autoresizing feature, but are usually imported full size and I then manually adjust the size.

This is all I can remember off the top of my head. I don't have my Mac with me.

Originally posted by juanvaldes:
one year is a rather short development cycle especially for a big app that is intended to compete with power point. They can get away with it for the iApps but probably not here...

I'd wager a new version will show up in about 6-12 months.
??? Keynote (at least in its current form) is far less complex than for example iMovie or iDVD.
     
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Jan 7, 2004, 09:45 AM
 
Originally posted by Eug:

5) Tabbing to get subheadings doesn't change the font size and AFAIK there isn't a setting to do this. This looks very odd and I manually have to reduce the font size for subheadings.
You can modify the master style to make subheadings smaller. It's not as intuitive as it could be but it works.
     
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Jan 7, 2004, 10:18 AM
 
Originally posted by Boochie:
You can modify the master style to make subheadings smaller. It's not as intuitive as it could be but it works.
Good point. I never thought of that. I will use that for my next presentation.

Still I'd like to have an on/off switch somewhere in the prefs for this.
     
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Jan 7, 2004, 10:47 AM
 
Why no Keynote? Simple, it could be still under development and too far behind or it could be ready for prime time and Apple just didn't want to show it off on the same stage that Microsoft was presenting the amazingly interesting print preview features of Excel. I would figure that the existing print preview functionality should have worked correctly to begin with... Imagine that, fix freaking bugs and marketing them as features!

For good or for worse, MSOffice is a very important product and it would've been innappropriate to blow them out of the water and raise speculation on what other office apps is Apple secretly developing.
     
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Jan 7, 2004, 11:07 AM
 
Originally posted by DaGuy:
Why no Keynote? Simple, it could be still under development and too far behind or it could be ready for prime time
Yes, that's a given. The question was more of a rhetorical one. ie. "I wish it would have come out at MWSF 2004, but it didn't."

For good or for worse, MSOffice is a very important product and it would've been innappropriate to blow them out of the water and raise speculation on what other office apps is Apple secretly developing.
That's a very good point. I never saw the (small-K) keynote and forgot that MS Office 2004 was announced there.
     
   
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