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Developer · Jan 20, 2004, 12:14 PM

The most popular browsers in the web are:

1. Microsoft IE 6.0 68.1%
2. Microsoft IE 5.5 13.8%
3. Microsoft IE 5.0 11.8%
4. Mozilla 1.8%
5. Opera 7.0 0.8%
6. Microsoft IE 4.0 0.7%
7. Safari 0.48%

Jan Van Boghout · Jan 20, 2004, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by Developer:
The most popular browsers in the web are:

1. Microsoft IE 6.0 68.1%
2. Microsoft IE 5.5 13.8%
3. Microsoft IE 5.0 11.8%
4. Mozilla 1.8%
5. Opera 7.0 0.8%
6. Microsoft IE 4.0 0.7%
7. Safari 0.48%

People still use IE4. This makes me so sad

mitchell_pgh · Jan 20, 2004, 04:02 PM

Originally posted by Jan Van Boghout:
People still use IE4. This makes me so sad

I find it amazing that people use Opera. Then again, it's cross platform (OS X, OS 9, Windows, Linux etc.)

gorickey · Jan 20, 2004, 04:10 PM

Wonder how high the usage has to get before a Safari update comes out...

dru · Jan 20, 2004, 06:15 PM

So Microsoft holds 94.4% of the browser market? I know the site claims 94.8% but there's a 0.4% of that not accounted for in the breakdown.

I can't believe Opera has that high of market penetration since it's so... awful.

The Mozilla family is under 2%? Wow.

Cool to see Safari almost a half percent considering it's Mac OS X only and use doubled in just six months.

andrew davidoff · Jan 20, 2004, 06:25 PM

Originally posted by mitchell_pgh:
I find it amazing that people use Opera. Then again, it's cross platform (OS X, OS 9, Windows, Linux etc.)

why does that amaze you? i used it for quite some time. it's fast as hell, has gestures, and supports everything i ever needed. it's not perfect, but i don't see why it'd be surprising that people use it.

andrew davidoff

jcb9 · Jan 20, 2004, 07:16 PM

Originally posted by andrew davidoff:
why does that amaze you? i used it for quite some time. it's fast as hell, has gestures, and supports everything i ever needed. it's not perfect, but i don't see why it'd be surprising that people use it.

Did you use the Windows version or the Mac version? Because the Mac version is just awful. I have heard the Windows version is better, though...

Synotic · Jan 20, 2004, 07:25 PM

Are Mac IE numbers rolled into the Windows ones or is there simply no penetration of Mac users using IE? If so I suppose you could say that Safari is the most popular browser on the entire Mac, both OS 9 and OS X.

Nebrie · Jan 20, 2004, 07:42 PM

Originally posted by dru:
So Microsoft holds 94.4% of the browser market? I know the site claims 94.8% but there's a 0.4% of that not accounted for in the breakdown.

I can't believe Opera has that high of market penetration since it's so... awful.

The Mozilla family is under 2%? Wow.

Cool to see Safari almost a half percent considering it's Mac OS X only and use doubled in just six months.

Mac IE, IE 3, WebTV IE, MSN Explorer IE, Pocket PC IE, etc.

AC Rempt · Jan 20, 2004, 07:51 PM

Originally posted by Jan Van Boghout:
People still use IE4. This makes me so sad

Does it make you sadder still that IE4 has a higher usage share than Safari?

andrew davidoff · Jan 20, 2004, 08:19 PM

Originally posted by jcb9:
Did you use the Windows version or the Mac version? Because the Mac version is just awful. I have heard the Windows version is better, though...

i used various builds on linux system and on windows too, but never on a mac.

andrew davidoff

Truepop · Jan 20, 2004, 08:55 PM

I think it is because everyone who switches sees the e and e stands for internet somehow to windows users. So many people I help out ask "what did you do with the internet? The e is gone" It's sad.

I can't remember but does the iTMS use webkit? if so then that means webkit is ported to the windows world. What problems would it be for Apple to go on a Safari in the windows world?

Cadaver · Jan 20, 2004, 09:51 PM

I bet Internet Explorer for the Mac is rolled in to that IE 5.0 number. Otherwise, where is it on the list? Surely it still must hold a statistically significant (but not necessarily dominant) rank out of Macintosh users.

tooki · Jan 21, 2004, 02:11 AM

Don't be so sure.

On Mac geek sites like this, the vast majority (!) of readers are using Safari, according to the logs.

tooki

iNeusch · Jan 21, 2004, 02:45 AM

Originally posted by Cadaver:
I bet Internet Explorer for the Mac is rolled in to that IE 5.0 number. Otherwise, where is it on the list? Surely it still must hold a statistically significant (but not necessarily dominant) rank out of Macintosh users.

OSX is 40% of the macs isn't it ?
so IE must still be used a lot on macs... at least the ones on OS9

JLL · Jan 21, 2004, 03:13 AM

Aren't these stats compiled from sites using OneStat's service?

How many 'regular' and often visited sites use OneStat?

trash80 · Jan 21, 2004, 04:15 AM

a fair number of users use browsers other than IE but spoof the user agent to make it look like IE so it'll work with bonehead browser detecting websites. i wonder if those stats take that into account?

safari will get more popular though i think apple should try and maintain some backwards compatibility. not everyone upgrades OSX every year.

Russian Mac fan · Jan 21, 2004, 04:59 AM

Any recent stats for Mac only computers? I would suspect that Safari is being used by 60-70% of OS X users

Developer · Jan 21, 2004, 12:10 PM

Originally posted by Russian Mac fan:
Any recent stats for Mac only computers? I would suspect that Safari is being used by 60-70% of OS X users

According to the same guys, the most popular operating systems on the web are:

1. Microsoft Windows 97.34%
2. Apple Macintosh 1.49%
3. Linux 0.51%

So Safari would have a usage share of about 33% on the Mac.
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geekwagon · Jan 21, 2004, 12:31 PM

Originally posted by tooki:
Don't be so sure.

On Mac geek sites like this, the vast majority (!) of readers are using Safari, according to the logs.

tooki

Yeah, I host a download for an open source program called xCHM, and probably 80% of the hits I see are from Safari, 10% are Mozilla, and 10% are IE.

Course, since the program only runs on OS X 10.3, that is going to be only users that keep updated.

angelmb · Jan 21, 2004, 01:03 PM

Do not be fooled guys !!, those huge IE numbers are really iCab users that identified themselves as IE users. Come on, my three Macs use iCab and then Safari.

ryaxnb · Jan 21, 2004, 07:17 PM

Originally posted by dru:

I can't believe Opera has that high of market penetration since it's so... awful.

I've heard it's pretty good on the PC. One guy I know on another forum is contentedly using Opera on a PC.

nickm · Jan 23, 2004, 02:32 AM

I don't buy those numbers; Google has consistently reported the Mac as holding 3% of the share of operating systems that do searches. This would seem to me to be a pretty good approximation of the percentage of the active desktop market held by the Mac. I also agree with the comments about IE for the Mac. If Safari is really 0.48%, IE should be on the radar as well.